(May 21, 2012 at 3:51 am)Ace Otana Wrote: What I find most sickening, is theists trying to rationalise people (many good people) being tortured. And not just rationalising torture but for the most trivial reasons.
That's just sick.
That's just it. There are no "good" people. Your idea of "good" is based on an ever downward spiraling, sliding scale. All one has to do to be deemed "good" in western culture is to not sin against the culture itself. It's like saying Oscar Shelindler was a good Nazi. Yes compared to his peers he was a good Nazi, but if you took his actions and compared them to someone outside his situation, he would have been thrown in jail. Because in the end he was still a Nazi who forced children into slavery, he was a war profiteer, and despite what the movie depicted more people died working for him than were saved by him.
"Good" is just an illusion based on all of the sin you are willing to accept and live with. We are told there are none who are "good." That is why all need to seek atonement for their sins.