(May 27, 2012 at 11:14 pm)ScienceLovesGod Wrote: But that was the basis of my question, that if the universe is heading for doom based on the inevitable process of entropy, and the universe is "creating" creatures (based on evolution) with physical bodies (energy conversion devices) that are accumulating less and less entropy, then how can this be?
The closest attempt to answer this question was when a scientist tried to prove how sub-systems (evolution on earth) can lose entropy while "inside" the larger system (the universe, which is a closed system because the overall entropy is increasing.) But that's very contradictory, applying the second law of thermodynamics in order to prove evolution, but attempting to disprove claims from creationists because apparently we are applying the second law to evolution and we shouldn't be doing that because it cannot be applied.
Entropy has to increase as a whole in the universe, but it can decrease on a smaller scale (Think of it like this. Heat from the sun is being lost as a result of 2nd law of thermodynamics, however we can use some of the heat as it's being lost (through solar panels) as work to reduce entropy on a smaller scale (like powering a refrigerator.)) Any time order ever increases, it is an example of that principle.
And, I don't know what you're talking about, nobody has attempted to use the second law of thermodynamics in order to prove evolution