(May 27, 2012 at 11:30 pm)genkaus Wrote:(May 27, 2012 at 11:14 pm)ScienceLovesGod Wrote: But that was the basis of my question, that if the universe is heading for doom based on the inevitable process of entropy, and the universe is "creating" creatures (based on evolution) with physical bodies (energy conversion devices) that are accumulating less and less entropy, then how can this be?
The closest attempt to answer this question was when a scientist tried to prove how sub-systems (evolution on earth) can lose entropy while "inside" the larger system (the universe, which is a closed system because the overall entropy is increasing.) But that's very contradictory, applying the second law of thermodynamics in order to prove evolution, but attempting to disprove claims from creationists because apparently we are applying the second law to evolution and we shouldn't be doing that because it cannot be applied.
Closest attempt? That is the fucking answer.
As to your accusation, the "evolutionists" aren't the ones who bring up the second law of thermodynamics. They know that it is not applicable and cannot be used to prove or disprove evolution. The reason it is not applicable is the very same reason you gave here. It is the creationists who consistently bring up this failed argument to "disprove" evolution and the scientists are simply setting them straight.
Once again, for clarity. The second law of thermodynamics does not prove evolution. That the entropy in sub-systems can decrease does not prove that it necessarily does decrease or increase or stays the same. Therefore, application of the second law towards either proof or disproof of evolution is incorrect. Which is why, the creationist claim that the second law of thermodynamics disproves evolution is wrong.
The other thing that creotards refuse to get it that even if they were to disprove evolutionary theory, that would still do nothing toward proving their own bullshit fairytale. And their bullshit fairy tale was a bullshit fairy tale long before Darwin showed up on the scene. The whole notion of attempting to "disprove evolution" is a red herring.