(May 29, 2012 at 1:15 pm)ScienceLovesGod Wrote: Sorry, I should have been more detailed. I'm trying to point out the origins of life. The reason I asked this is because the sun gives energy, but this can't produce complex systems, you need that first single system to transform random energy into kinetic energy.
This isn't more detailed. These are more unsupported assertions that indicate a need to take a class in organic chemistry.
(May 29, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Aiza Wrote: I guess there really is no point in asking. The fact that evolution is based on life sprouting from non-life is a fairy tale. Life can only come from life.
Saying something is so isn't an argument that it is so. Life coming from life isn't a law, it's an observation that all life we see now is a product of other biological organisms. However, in order for this to have always been true, biological organisms would have had to exist for eternity. Do you believe biological organisms have existed for eternity?
(May 29, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Aiza Wrote: Now you might be saying things like, "stupid creationist, so what about his God making Adam and Eve from dirt? That's Abiogenesis!" Adam was not alive until God gave him the breath of life. Life comes from life.
So you're saying the dirt was not alive and then it was alive, aren't you? Whether the first living organism was a product of chemistry or divine intervention, evolution applies thereafter. And you're not saying God is a biological organism are you?
(May 29, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Aiza Wrote: He was nothing more than dead meat, a lifeless composition of elements.
And anything that changed that situation that didn't involve the propagation of a biological organism would be creating life from non-life.
(May 29, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Aiza Wrote: The 59 elements of the human body can all be found on the earth's crust. And when the body dies, it turns into dirt again. Convenient, huh? Or is that just another one of the millions of "coincidences"?
Yes, we're all very amazed that life on earth is made out of the same stuff the earth is, rather than unearthly elements as could happen if there were no divine intervention...oh wait, that should be the other way around. We'd be amazed if we were made of something unearthly while being made of what's available is exactly what we expect from natural processes. BTW, have you ever considered that the dust we were supposedly raised from could be a metaphor for our evolution from microorganisms? Just sayin'.
(May 29, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Aiza Wrote: "...Darwinians agreed. Nothing was more essential for them than to decide whether evolution is a natural phenomenon or something controlled by God. The conviction that the diversity of the natural world was the result of natural processes and not the work of God was the idea that brought all the so-called Darwinians together in spite of their disagreements on other of Darwin’s theories." -Ernst Mayr, Professor of Zoology at Harvard University
Why should we care about your quote-mines?