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Nineteen-Eighty-Four
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RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four
(May 30, 2012 at 1:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There is no such thing as a utopia, be it religious or political. There is only our common humanity and the common law we as a species consent to. Hitchens understood this. Believers should be thanking him, not condemning him. And Orwell too.

But i think the point of 1984 was to contrast dystopian reality with the expectation of utopia which led to the setting up of the government. It's quite damning of socialism which i dislike but overall a a magnificent read.

Quote: Do you guys think that the two characters where ever really in love? I always thought that they were just in a relationship of convenience and wanted to rebel.

well honestly no, but this seems to me to be a sub-narrative in itself, the idea of love in the book is meant to be that of an eschewd connection and so their love may not reflect our idea of true love but when compared to the uniform party-supported marriage it can be seen as a massive departure towards real love Smile
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Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - May 30, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by downbeatplumb - May 30, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - May 30, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Annik - May 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Faith No More - May 30, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Brian37 - May 30, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - May 30, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Annik - May 30, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - June 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Kayenneh - May 30, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Minimalist - May 30, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Brian37 - May 30, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - May 30, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Brian37 - May 30, 2012 at 2:55 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Neo-Scholastic - May 30, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by padraic - June 1, 2012 at 2:55 am
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Angrboda - May 31, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by ElDinero - May 31, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by StatCrux - June 1, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by King_Charles - June 2, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by KichigaiNeko - June 3, 2012 at 5:58 am

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