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Nineteen-Eighty-Four
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RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four
The government in Orwell's book did not condemn socialism, it condemned fascism.

Any political word claimed as a cure all if marketed properly can become a monopoly, and a monopoly is the core of fascism.

Every government in the world, in the more oppressive states to the more free states have "socialistic" elements. Totalitarianism in the form of a religious or political party is the problem, not the idea of social cooperation. Otherwise, if all socialism is bad, then we should not have police, firemen, military, social security or public schools.

Speed limits are a form of socialism, it is a social contract that says it is safer for all of us to go this speed on this road to avoid accidents and death, than to simply do whatever we want.

It is impossible in a civil society for some form of government not to form. All governments are a form of socialism. The difference between North Korea and the west is that our "socialism" is not totalitarian and is based on consent, protection of dissent, and the ability to change.
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Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - May 30, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by downbeatplumb - May 30, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - May 30, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Annik - May 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Faith No More - May 30, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Brian37 - May 30, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - May 30, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Annik - May 30, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - June 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Kayenneh - May 30, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Minimalist - May 30, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Brian37 - May 30, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by liam - May 30, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Brian37 - May 30, 2012 at 2:55 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Neo-Scholastic - May 30, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by padraic - June 1, 2012 at 2:55 am
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by Angrboda - May 31, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by ElDinero - May 31, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by StatCrux - June 1, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by King_Charles - June 2, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Nineteen-Eighty-Four - by KichigaiNeko - June 3, 2012 at 5:58 am

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