RE: Hey Everyone.
August 31, 2009 at 3:10 am
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2009 at 3:22 am by Kyuuketsuki.)
(August 30, 2009 at 7:05 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(August 30, 2009 at 6:56 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: I Know you're into philosophy Saerules but this is EXACTLY why I think philosophy (modern day at any rate) is pile of foetid dingos kidneys ... because YOU claim you can disprove "Gawd's" existence easily yet THEY claim they can prove it easily! Can you understand where I have an issue?
In other words you avoid the subject because you know you can't win.
No, because there is bugger all point in something that can be used to "prove" one thing AND "prove" the exact opposite. This isn't rocket science, it's plain logic.
(August 30, 2009 at 10:21 pm)Saerules Wrote:(August 30, 2009 at 6:56 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: I Know you're into philosophy Saerules but this is EXACTLY why I think philosophy (modern day at any rate) is pile of foetid dingos kidneys ... because YOU claim you can disprove "Gawd's" existence easily yet THEY claim they can prove it easily! Can you understand where I have an issue?
I absolutely understand why you would say that However you will find that where philosophy is based on exactly the same thing as science (1=1), faith is based on the principle of 1 ≠ 1. I can disprove all-powerful beings with simple logic... and the faithful refute such logic because they a: don't think logically, b: are offended by logic, and c: are unwilling to change their mind.
Not getting too deep into this ... that's exactly the kind of thing they would say and that is why I stick to my basic point of view i.e. that, with the possible exception of maths, empirical evidence and a rational/compatible explanation of the same are the only things that are worth a damn when it comes to explaining things. Yes philosophy has it's uses as a reasoning tool and often feeds into science where that reasoning can be tested but alone it has never proven a thing. However my biggest issue is with it's bastard child metaphysics which, as far as I can tell, can be used to “prove” almost anything and can be somewhat cynically defined as a means of justifying that which cannot be demonstrated empirically.
Kyu
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