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(August 30, 2009 at 2:59 pm)Saerules Wrote: A social standard has to begin with individual standards. The average individual standard becomes the social standard. This standard is then copied from generation to generation, with little shift in the standard. However, this does not mean that the social standard is the right thing.

I entirely disagree (*although I understand where you're coming from) ... social standards begin with TWO or more people because with only one person there are none, it's a group thing.

(August 30, 2009 at 2:59 pm)Saerules Wrote: Take for example, male supremacy. It was (and is in many countries) created by a social standard... but it was and is horribly wrong. As is slavery, rape, torture, the corset... those were and in some places are social standards... but they are in no way right. And children is where this standard is established with each generation. If you don't make nudity, sex, and language into something inappropriate: it will not be inappropriate.

I don't think male supremacy is established by social standard, I think it was establish on violence and brute strength i.e. men (on average) are bigger, fitter, more agile etc. than women

And I take exception to the corset thing ... corsets are awesome (though I concede they don't look so good on me)! Where would my favourite Goth look be without corsets?

(August 30, 2009 at 2:59 pm)Saerules Wrote: I would make every detail of myself public, if i did not fear the ramifications of doing so in our current climate. I aim to change that climate so that i can be myself without fear within it, and so that others can know me for who i am. So yes, i would make every detail about myself public, if others would accept that knowledge without condemning me to a worse life.

And therein lies the problem, you're taking an idealistic POV and in a social setting that doesn't work ... some people need protecting from society, society needs protecting from some people and as such some degree of censorship is not only necessary but desirable ... the question is (or should be) where do we draw the line i.e. what is censored, what is not and why?

(August 30, 2009 at 2:59 pm)Saerules Wrote: Do i fear others knowing about who i am? Not at all. Do i feel it would be unwise for them to know who i am while they are still so full of prejudice to everything i am? Certainly.

Charming! Very idealistic. Can I have your bank details as you are censoring me from having those?

Kyu
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