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A question to the darwinists.
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RE: A question to the darwinists.
(September 1, 2009 at 2:00 pm)amw79 Wrote: There has been many examples of beneficial mutations - the peppered moth being the standard example of observed evolution on a quick scale.

With regards to beneficial mutation in humans, see the following link and note bullet points 3 and 4 in the below paragraph


2.Beneficial mutations are commonly observed. They are common enough to be problems in the cases of antibiotic resistance in disease-causing organisms and pesticide resistance in agricultural pests (e.g., Newcomb et al. 1997; these are not merely selection of pre-existing variation.) They can be repeatedly observed in laboratory populations (Wichman et al. 1999). Other examples include the following:
•Mutations have given bacteria the ability to degrade nylon (Prijambada et al. 1995).
•Plant breeders have used mutation breeding to induce mutations and select the beneficial ones (FAO/IAEA 1977).
•Certain mutations in humans confer resistance to AIDS (Dean et al. 1996; Sullivan et al. 2001) or to heart disease (Long 1994; Weisgraber et al. 1983).
•A mutation in humans makes bones strong (Boyden et al. 2002).
•Transposons are common, especially in plants, and help to provide beneficial diversity (Moffat 2000).
•In vitro mutation and selection can be used to evolve substantially improved function of RNA molecules, such as a ribozyme (Wright and Joyce 1997).

I_Fight_for_Jesus_Christ Wrote:Extremely interesting stuff.Thanks for the input. But, the writer failed to point out that the "benificial mutants" can actally turn inferior when the determining factor is removed and normal conditions are ensued.

But guys, don't you realise that by pssting those evolutionary articles you are as credible to me as I would have been to you if I would have pasted Genesis 1 here? Which to Christians is as much confirmed by science as The Origin of Species is to evolutionists?

The fact that due to environmental, or other determining factors, some mutations can change between non-beneficial, neutral, or beneficial, only adds to evolutionary theory (as in the peppered moth example). Indeed, this fact goes some way towards answering your point re the statisical improbability of genetic mutations i.e. existing genetic conditions/mutations are at one point neutral, then following environmental changes became beneficial - the power of natural selection does the rest.

And by the way, I'd be careful if your going to dismiss peer-reviewed scientific studies as not credible. You stated beneficial mutations were not possible - I have attempted to explain why there are, with links and references to scientific studies and basic examples.

If you are not interested in learning anything about the subject, and will simply dismiss this as not credible, (or, amazingly, assert that genesis has as much credibility as scientific studies), then you're in the wrong place.
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A question to the darwinists. - by I_Fight_for_Jesus_Christ - September 1, 2009 at 5:46 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Darwinian - September 1, 2009 at 5:52 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Darwinian - September 1, 2009 at 6:29 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Darwinian - September 1, 2009 at 6:46 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by padraic - September 1, 2009 at 7:38 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Kyuuketsuki - September 1, 2009 at 11:27 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by I_Fight_for_Jesus_Christ - September 1, 2009 at 11:49 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Tiberius - September 1, 2009 at 11:59 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Kyuuketsuki - September 1, 2009 at 1:01 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Darwinian - September 1, 2009 at 1:15 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Violet - September 1, 2009 at 1:55 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by amw79 - September 1, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Samson - September 1, 2009 at 3:18 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Kyuuketsuki - September 3, 2009 at 3:56 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by amw79 - September 2, 2009 at 4:29 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Tiberius - September 2, 2009 at 7:15 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Darwinian - September 2, 2009 at 7:19 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Tiberius - September 2, 2009 at 8:22 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Tiberius - September 2, 2009 at 9:09 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by mrjack - September 2, 2009 at 10:05 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Amphora - September 3, 2009 at 11:17 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by mrjack - September 4, 2009 at 11:38 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by I_Fight_for_Jesus_Christ - September 2, 2009 at 10:38 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Edwardo Piet - September 2, 2009 at 11:24 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Violet - September 2, 2009 at 12:42 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Darwinian - September 2, 2009 at 1:35 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Violet - September 2, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by LukeMC - September 2, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2009 at 4:19 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Tiberius - September 2, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by leo-rcc - September 2, 2009 at 4:24 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by downbeatplumb - September 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm
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RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Edwardo Piet - September 3, 2009 at 6:10 am
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RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Giff - September 3, 2009 at 4:26 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Darwinian - September 3, 2009 at 4:26 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by theVOID - September 3, 2009 at 7:08 am
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by downbeatplumb - September 3, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Violet - September 3, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Dotard - September 4, 2009 at 7:02 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by Violet - September 4, 2009 at 7:57 pm
RE: A question to the darwinists. - by VenomFangX - October 2, 2009 at 1:00 am
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