RE: definations
June 6, 2012 at 5:37 pm
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2012 at 5:39 pm by Drich.)
(June 6, 2012 at 6:56 am)apophenia Wrote:The passage in question from Paul comes from what he says in 1 Cor 7http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians+7&version=ERV
Speaking of the bible, it just occurred to me: Paul clearly advises to abstain from sex, if at all possible;yet in Genesis, God commands Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply.
Paul Identifies this thoughts on the matter of sex as "not a command from God." So everything from verse 1 to verse 7 is Paul's personal thoughts, and from verse 8 forward are direct commands from God.
Quote: So the "Word of God" both tells us to have sex, and not to have sex.No. Paul says he personally thinks it best, given the times and comming tribulations not to have sex, but in the same chapter he says God has ordained marriage for the purpose of sex and it is better to be married and have sex than to burn with passion outside of marriage.
why did Paul think it best to not have sex? Two reasons 1: because the fruit of sex is often children, and he knew of, the comming slaughter. Paul simply thought it best to spare any children from being fed to the lions or being dipped in hot wax, and set a blaze to be made human candles. 2: if one was not bound/worried about a family he was more free to serve God.
Quote: One might escape the obvious contradiction by suggesting that God meant that Adam and Eve do so, but nobody else; but I know of no church that would, given both the issues of homosexuality and heterosexual marriage, and that of contraception. One might suggest that Jesus repudiated the law, but since God himself commanded it, that would seem to invalidate the ten commandments, and besides that, Paul is not himself God; it's hard to see how a mortal can repeal a commandment of God.Fear not, for this is not what has happened anywhere in the writtings of Paul. He does give a side bar or his personal thoughts from time to time but will always seperate his thought from God commands like He did in 1co7:6 "These are my thoughts and not a command from God."
(June 6, 2012 at 7:04 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(June 5, 2012 at 5:47 pm)Drich Wrote: Again as I said I am not here for most of you. I am here for the one or two who are Atheist simply because it was their default view on God from their father or because the church they attended could not answer their questions.
Well atheist is my default view.
My mum was religious and my dad was a 'lapsed' catholic who has now changed his stance to atheist, I can sincerely say that I have never believed in god, from as early as i can remember I found it a silly idea.
So you are here for me apparently.
Hows that working out for ya.
People like you, yes. Because we had simliar starts.