(September 2, 2009 at 8:50 am)I_Fight_for_Jesus_Christ Wrote: And no I'm not creating a strawman version, I'm working of the version that you guys have given me in this particular debate.I'm afraid you are creating a strawman. We tell you how evolution works, and you go and completely turn it on it's head. We never at any stage said that one mutation had to spread through the entire population before a new mutation occurred, that was all you.
Yes, the process repeats millions of times, it's nature. It happens all the time. When an organism has a mutation that gives it a benefit in it's environment (say, faster legs for escaping predators), it has a higher survival rate than other organisms that do not have the mutation. Yes, it may die out anyway through some other cause, but the same can be said of any of the organisms. If the organism survives long enough to reproduce, it passes on the mutation to it's children, who then pass it onto their children, etc etc. Eventually the mutation is spread around the population.
I'm not sure why you keep going on about these numbers 100,000,000, because they don't come into it at all.
Also, I don't think everything is governed by the laws of chance, so I don't know why you brought it up.
Quote:So Adrian, when you can't put forth a worthy argument then you just say that I dont know anything about the subject and leave it at that? So typical of evolutionists.I did put forth a worthy argument, and your "rebuttal" simply made up another argument and discarded mine. You state things about evolution than no evolutionary biologist has ever said or believed. I think you'll also find that I didn't "just" say you didn't know anything; I said you didn't know anything about biology and then proceeded to try and correct you on your point about mutations.
Please find me the arguments now. This is a debate, and you have brought up some supposed arguments that disprove evolution. They are in the debate now, so you can either (a) back them up by presenting them properly, or (b) apologise for bringing them up because they are wrong.