RE: Scientific ACCURACIES in the Bible
June 9, 2012 at 7:20 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2012 at 7:23 pm by Tea Earl Grey Hot.)
(June 9, 2012 at 6:38 pm)Drich Wrote:Please share those entries complete with lexicon name, author, and year.(June 9, 2012 at 6:10 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I would be interested in how Genenius came to the conclusion that it can mean "sphere."They are not the only ones I have several hard copies and alll say sphere.. Maybe you can write a letter and find out.
(June 9, 2012 at 6:38 pm)Drich Wrote: Look up the word compass in the english. It describes a curved circumference or, circumscribed space.
I did and didn't find any meaning of "circumference" or "circumscribed space" that would imply a three-dimensional object such as a sphere. Please share whatever definition you found of compass that you think might imply a sphere.
(June 9, 2012 at 6:38 pm)Drich Wrote: If we are looking at context we can not float between the Hebrew and english, we must pick one and seek clarity or establish context using one set of words. Here in the Hebrew the word in question Literally describes a circled circumfrance. The bibles that are traditionaly translated in english will Almost always give a direct translation rather than an interperated version. Unless you seek out an easy to read or understand version. Matter of fact, the ERV says shpere. The traditional versions will stick to a more literal interpertation and leave it to the reader to figure things out. Remember the bible (traditional transllations) were not written for the masses. There is alot more needed to understand what is on page that just a quick read or on page understanding of what is being communicated.
It still hasn't been shown that "circle of the earth" or "circled circumference" was suppose to be interpreted as sphere as oppose to a flat circle. Again, here are the reasons why it shouldn't be taken as "sphere"
1. It says that God "sits upon the circle" and "spreads heaven like a tent to dwell in."
2. Mesopotanian cultures also used this same phrase to describe the earth in an explicitly flat earth context:
Quote:And just as Mesopotamians spoke of the "circle of the sky," or "circle of heaven," Horowitz adds that they spoke in a similar fashion concerning the flat earth disk, calling it the "circle of the earth" or "circle of the lands," "circle of the four corners," "circle of the four winds," and "circle of the four (regions)." The author of the Babylonian "map of the world" even drew "the limit of the earth's surface as two concentric circles." ' And as we shall see, such phrases as "the circle of the earth" and the "circle of heaven" are just as much a part of biblical cosmology as they are Mesopotamian cosmology.
John W. Loftus. The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails (Kindle Locations 1392-1396). Kindle Edition.
3. Isaiah also described God as having "spread it [the earth] out" (Isaiah 42:5 and 44:24). The meaning of the hebrew word for "spread" in these verses is literally "to beat, stamp, beat out, spread out": http://concordances.org/hebrew/7554.htm
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).