RE: Scientific ACCURACIES in the Bible
June 9, 2012 at 9:59 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2012 at 10:23 pm by Drich.)
(June 9, 2012 at 7:20 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Please share those entries complete with lexicon name, author, and year.are you asking me to scan and post the pics?
Quote:I did and didn't find any meaning of "circumference" or "circumscribed space" that would imply a three-dimensional object such as a sphere. Please share whatever definition you found of compass that you think might imply a sphere.Didn't look did you? Thought you'd just call my bluff?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compass
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a: boundary, circumference <within the compass of the city walls> b: a circumscribed space <within the narrow compass of 21 pages — V. L. Parrington> c: range, scope <the compass of my voice>
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: a curved or roundabout course <a compass of seven days' journey — 2 Kings 3:9(Authorized Version)>
Adj: forming a curve : curved <a compass timber>
Quote:It still hasn't been shown that "circle of the earth" or "circled circumference" was suppose to be interpreted as sphere as oppose to a flat circle. Again, here are the reasons why it shouldn't be taken as "sphere"Because Shape In This Passage Is Of Little Importance, Next To What Is Being Communicated Here!
Quote:1. It says that God "sits upon the circle" and "spreads heaven like a tent to dwell in."To sit or To Rest on something in this context Means to Control. The Circle, or to Control the Entire Circumference/compass. That is why the word for as circle or Compass is being used here. Isaiah is not communicating SHAPE, He is describing the Complete control God has over the earth.
This is why I said you can not take 1/2 of an English translation and marry it to 1/2 of a Hebrew translation. Because in the Hebrew we are talking about Authority, and in the English you have twisted the passage to mean the prophet is communicating shape.
Quote:And just as Mesopotamians spoke of the "circle of the sky," or "circle of heaven," Horowitz adds that they spoke in a similar fashion concerning the flat earth disk, calling it the "circle of the earth" or "circle of the lands," "circle of the four corners," "circle of the four winds," and "circle of the four (regions)." The author of the Babylonian "map of the world" even drew "the limit of the earth's surface as two concentric circles." ' And as we shall see, such phrases as "the circle of the earth" and the "circle of heaven" are just as much a part of biblical cosmology as they are Mesopotamian cosmology.Again with the the deluded man's thoughts... I have shown twice now he has taken things out of context inorder to make a point. This guy has lost his integrity, and therefore can not formally represent scripture with any degree of accuracy.
John W. Loftus. The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails (Kindle Locations 1392-1396). Kindle Edition.
Quote:3. Isaiah also described God as having "spread it [the earth] out" (Isaiah 42:5 and 44:24). The meaning of the Hebrew word for "spread" in these verses is literally "to beat, stamp, beat out, spread out": http://concordances.org/hebrew/7554.htmso?
(June 9, 2012 at 7:39 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:(June 9, 2012 at 6:20 pm)Drich Wrote: When you thought it was wrong you all lined up and pointed to your 'translations' to dance around what you thought was a slain giant. Now that the bible is proven to be not wrong it's a broken clock.
Here is a simple principle for you. If you do not want to believe in God then simply don't. Stand on your own authority and simply say I do not want to belive in God and it is my choice that I don't. And Just leave it at that. You don't need a reason. Reasons are the beginning of a defense. If there is no God what is their to defend?
That might have been viable, if it were not for you assholes' propensity for pushing for your superstitions' influence in our lives and our secular laws and the lives of our children, and your constant attempts to infect us and our children with your disease of delusion.
So.. your only defense is to push Your beliefs and morals onto us? To do exactly what it is you have accused us of doing? How is this not hypocrisy?
So, bottom line There is no direct Hebrew word for Sphere. The closest thing we have is the word Chuwg which communicates a circle and to encompass. To say the passage is only talking about shape is to not understand what is being communicated. However that said if you want to take just the literal interpertation of the translated word, then Chuwg is the cloest word Ancient Hebrews had to Sphere. For it give a shape and a direction (to surround or to encompass.)