Soldiers life threatened by his own side.

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I would have imagine it would be easy to understand, what with rehashing some of the same phrases and being arranged in a format that mimics the post you made identically...

Here,let me help you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_relativism

Even though you aren't entirely clear on what cultural relativism actually is I understood what you were trying to say (you are criticizing moral relativism), and cultural relativism does make observations like the ones you mention (although you interestingly decided to call them proposals, probably due to confusion) as it is a methodology used to study cultures. This would be what I was referring to at 1 and 3.

Ah, my apologies, I must have worded it wrong, regardless of the wording, the relativism part is what I was getting at. I consider them proposals because they are proposed ideas, if this is incorrect then feel welcome to clarify for me.

4 is my offering a right that I'm guessing you wouldn't say "by [it's] nature, do best serve society as they maintain the moral integrity of the people which constitute the society itself." Some specific right might be able to accomplish that, but not all do, and I'm not sure why you think that they do, by their nature, considering the sorts of batshit (to you and me-cultural relativism-) "rights" we so often enjoy. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that the value (using the metric above about serving a society and integrity and whatnot) of any given "right" is measured by whatever it confers to whomever it confers it and not by it's "nature", whatever the nature of a right is in the first place? It's what is contained in the right, not some whispy "nature of a right" that serves society (however it might do so).

right to slavery is not one that I advocated, I am talking of simple rights, mainly the right to autonomy and other fundamental rights that I feel lifr deserves. I agree that there are some rights in society that are bullshit but I didn't advocate those either. I support rights that are from the nature of man, society or universalisation, not the rights that are granted to people by society as these simply govern because these aren't necessarily moral.
I said nothing of the nature of the right, but rather that it stems from one of the three aforementioned things, I feel that the only thing that stems from the nature of right itself is that (in terms of the types of right I mentioned before, these being such rights as the right to not be murdered etc.)

We can be back on track if you'd like. If not then I'm happy to keep conversing over these issue