RE: Euthyphro dilemma asked for evolution.
June 15, 2012 at 10:03 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2012 at 10:07 am by Whateverist.)
(June 15, 2012 at 9:41 am)genkaus Wrote: A universal goal.
Morality is a guide that should lead us to something. For example, the aim of religious morality is heaven or happier afterlife. Utilitarian morality aims at maximizing happiness and so on. Therefore, we need to find an objective goal that would not be based simply on the philosopher's choice. Something that would be an inherent part of the human nature. Something that we may point out as not only so what all humans should work towards, but we all do work for.
Common sense suggests that a "happy and fulfilling life" would fill that criteria. But that cannot be established as a fact. And there are simply too many irrational and illogical ideas out there about what constitutes a happy and fulfilling life.
Agreed. However, this does make it sound as if an objective morality is a solution in search of a problem.
(June 14, 2012 at 9:36 am)Rhythm Wrote: As an interesting side conversation on the subject-
What do you think are the major stumbling blocks with regards to finding or creating this objective morality. For example, just those statements you've made on these boards would suggest to me that it wouldn't be too hard to create it, since we have that exacting a definition and a suggestion as to where to look. What are the problems with objective morality that you have found? How did you find yourself in the "it might exist/we could create it" camp whilst being simultaneously unable to offer objective morality up to us? Say we created/found objective morality, are there any obstructions on the way to universal application that jump out at you?
You sir turn a mean phrase. I don't always share your concerns or objectives but you always make me interested in them. (Confession: I usually do share your concerns and objectives, as in the present one.)