RE: Hello from Belgium
June 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2012 at 8:12 pm by Tempus.)
Sounds like you basically have to go to a boring party - that's how I'd look at it anyway. As long as the people involved aren't nutcases I wouldn't mind, despite being an atheist. Churches usually have nice architecture; just look at that and tune the nonsense out 
I would say "yeah, you're right." But that doesn't address the problems religion does cause. Let's use different problems to highlight the reasoning:
Person A: "Drugs can cause problems."
Person B: "Oh yeah, well people would still be murdered if there were no drugs!"
It's a form of ignoratio elenchi. Take care not to be distracted; it's easy to get tricked into arguing irrelevant points of a subject.

(June 16, 2012 at 7:51 pm)mrlmichael Wrote: Btw, totally unrelated, but what counter arguments do other atheist here use when a religious person tells you, "if there was no religion in the world, people would just find something else to fight about"
I would say "yeah, you're right." But that doesn't address the problems religion does cause. Let's use different problems to highlight the reasoning:
Person A: "Drugs can cause problems."
Person B: "Oh yeah, well people would still be murdered if there were no drugs!"
It's a form of ignoratio elenchi. Take care not to be distracted; it's easy to get tricked into arguing irrelevant points of a subject.