RE: Deism for non-believers
June 17, 2012 at 11:00 am
(This post was last modified: June 17, 2012 at 11:31 am by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
I knew -- and I said -- all along that your story of "deconversion" was a sham
Fallacy Bullshit Special Pleading aka Moving the goalposts aka being a disingenuous fucktard.
I dropped you in your tracks at (A). No need to go any further.
Special Pleading/moving the goalposts/ disingenuous/fucktard.
Repeating the same lie over and over as nauseum doesn't make it true.
It hasn't happened yet in the first whole lotta billion years, no reason to assume it will in the last.
(June 13, 2012 at 12:17 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Ok, there you go. You've implicitly identified that creation was an act of intervention in the immaterial realm. So for me that doesn't count as intervening in the real world.
Fallacy Bullshit Special Pleading aka Moving the goalposts aka being a disingenuous fucktard.
Quote:Taqqiya Mockingbird Wrote:See, there is your whole problem here in a nutshell. Like any "good" theist (or "deist" or whatever for the arrogantly pedantic), you approach the problem thus:
A) X must be true, by fiat.
B) What specious arguments, assertions, and other horseshit can I try to float to support A?
C) Post B ad nauseum.
Then stop me at step B and show me why I'm wrong.
I dropped you in your tracks at (A). No need to go any further.
(June 15, 2012 at 9:42 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:Colanth Wrote:Oops. Creation is also intervention, so creation when there's nothing is impossible. Your logic, not mine. (And it's not creation if anything already exists.)Where did you get that from? I never said creation is intervention. I've said the opposite this whole time.
Special Pleading/moving the goalposts/ disingenuous/fucktard.
Repeating the same lie over and over as nauseum doesn't make it true.
Quote:Quote:Of course, "creation" doesn't need a creator - that's just one more gap that no god lives in. uAnd it's the crucial one - if no creator is needed, no god is either, of
bqbq any kind. That's the last gap and it's welded shut. No more god-o-the-gaps. Now we have to await objective evidence that a god objectively exists. And the universe has only a few (okay, a whole lot) billion years left, so I don't think anyone will ever see any.
You have evidence to prove that?
It hasn't happened yet in the first whole lotta billion years, no reason to assume it will in the last.