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Antinatalism
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RE: Antinatalism
(June 27, 2012 at 3:03 pm)goddamnit Wrote: Theoretically substantiating a moral principle is nearly impossible, if even possible at all. Not everyone agrees in what the word "moral" means and nihilism can be argued. But think about what nihilism is if we truly embrace it and act on it in practice: sociopathy. So, the point is, for this thread, I admit I will be appealing to your subjective whims and sort of assuming premises as axioms that I did not theoretically substantiate. For example, I might assume that stabbing kind and happy people with a fork only for recreational purposes is "immoral," although I acknowledge that it is theoretically difficult to substantiate that assumption.

I think procreation is immoral. It means bringing a consciousness into existence that could potentially intensely suffer most of its life, whether that be physical (nerve problems) or mental (major depression). People who hate their lives are often too scared to commit suicide or would feel guilty knowing it causes a parent or other person pain. Is it fair to take a colossal gamble at the risk of tormented consciousness that is not your own?

I don't think procreation is immoral. The statistical likelihood that a child will have any problems upon birth is slim, so you are more likely to have a healthy baby. What I do think is a harder decision is whether or not to procreate if you know you are a carrier for a genetic disease.

On another note, embracing nihilism fully is not sociopathical. Sociopathy is a mental disorder ( a branch of anti-social behavioral disorder ) so they have no choice but to do what they do, whereas you'd still think like a normal person but be analyzing everything from a nihilist viewpoint.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
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Antinatalism - by goddamnit - June 27, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by Tobie - June 27, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by goddamnit - June 27, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by frankiej - June 27, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by Tempus - June 27, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by Welsh cake - June 27, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by Epimethean - June 27, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by Angrboda - June 27, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by The Grand Nudger - June 27, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by padraic - June 27, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by Anomalocaris - June 27, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by Epimethean - June 27, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: Antinatalism - by noahide - June 7, 2015 at 7:34 am
RE: Antinatalism - by Longhorn - June 7, 2015 at 7:36 am
RE: Antinatalism - by abaris - June 7, 2015 at 8:04 am
RE: Antinatalism - by Longhorn - June 7, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: Antinatalism - by AFTT47 - June 7, 2015 at 8:56 am
RE: Antinatalism - by Alex K - June 7, 2015 at 9:33 am

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