(June 30, 2012 at 1:53 am)cato123 Wrote: The problem is ...Betrayus.
lol. yeah, i don't get that one. at least they got him in a position where his expertise is used but not so clearly calling shots on the ground. you may know better what his range as director of cia is, as it relates to the military. that's not my thing.
Quote:... but they rammed through the Affordable Health Care Act right? Why not anything else? Why not troops home, that didn't require action by the Congress?
yeah, he slammed thru the health care act but gave away one testicle (the bigger one) in the process. he could've done that with the troops i suppose and i wish he would've chose that option.
Quote:Your reply regarding McCain is simply a rationalization. McCain being part of the discussion is nothing more than a non-sequitor. McCain has never been president; therefore, any conclusion made on the premise 'if he was' is meaningless.
true, it was just an opinion i shared and stated as such.
Quote:I will assume that we don't see things much differently politically; however, I use effectiveness as a measure of success from our President; whereas you are ok with the unrealized ideal. Reagan and Clinton were both very effective Presidents, both for most of their tenures worked with political opposition majorities in the Congress.
likely we don't see them much differently. i can partially agree that his term to this point seems unrealized, but that doesn't mean to me that he's gotten nothing solid accomplished. very easy to find a list of what he's gotten done in his time (ie., http://obamaachievements.org/list). relative to his hope and change jargon, it does look like his accomplishments are slim, but he's getting the wheels greased behind the scenes.
they can land a rover on mars, yet they still have to stick a human finger up my ass to do a prostate exam?! - ricky gervais