(June 30, 2012 at 1:18 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: No matter what side you vote for you'll still get the same result. A candidate who will make handshakes with people who had power before he was in office, will gain power while hes in office and will continue to gain power after he has left office. These handshakes will determine his policies, his statements and his terms. This will have occured with his predecessor and will inevitably occur with his successor.
The candidates are puppets and the puppeteers are many, even should all of these puppeteers succumb to old age most will have a heir to their legacies or be replaced by a competitor.
So don't you worry your pretty little heads off about voting wether you live in America, Spain, France, Russia, Germany, England, Greece, Turkey, etc etc.
Democracy is a stage, the elections just another performance and your freewill a carefully constructed illusion.
If free will is an illusion then how can any be 'puppeteers'? Oh I know what has to come next: because the puppeteers themselves have strings .. yada yada yada.
Mostly the free will debate strikes me as just a waste of time. But then you see it used to justify acquiescing to whatever will come. If only it were possible for everyone to benefit from history. Why does everyone need to make this mistake? It certainly plays into the hands of those who would concentrate wealth into the hands of the very few.
Okay, you get one more try. How about falsifiability? Is that important to you? If so then perhaps you could realize that the no free will illusion is not falsifiable. We reject gods over this, why not absurd paradoxes of human affairs? People exist. They operate pretty much the way you do. Some of those people will make you much worse off if you do nothing. Resistance is not futile.