Questions for American Atheists

[Reforged]

Read what I said about communism again. I wasn't saying it was good or bad, I was stating a fact that human nature twists it. It was good in theory because it was a good system, humans don't do equality though. Its not how we've evolved, its not how we've survived. We are predisposed to attempt to out do each other, this is no longer a sufficent means of survival.

Eugenics would certainly be a means, yes. Of course ever since Hitler looked it up in a dictionary, decided he didn't like that definition and created his own people have been less than receptive towards it. I presume thats the light you're casting it in.

This wasn't what I was suggesting but at the end of the day, what would be wrong with it? So you've altered a few chromosomes to make your child smarter, so what? Now you've altered a few more to make him kinder and a few others to safe-guard against genetic diseases and defects. Perhaps make him more athletic too.
At what point is any of this a bad thing?

SO why are you shitting on democracy then, what do you hope to accomplish? What are you proving? If you can't name or explain a better system then why do you attempt to discredit something else? It is the same situation with the people who complain about obamacare or the federal reserve but can't recommend a single coherent alternative. Representative democracy is the best form of government we have to date, I'm still waiting for any new suggestions, from the people who don't vote in this country (48% of eligible americans) it's amazing that we have a democracy where everyone can vote regardless of race, gender, or religion, something that people are dying for in the arab spring and frankly all over the world, but just Americans don't vote........ apathy, laziness, good ole' fashioned douchebaggery .......whatever it is I just DO NOT know!!!

Oh please. Every representitive makes special little deals to get in power, those are what determine their policies. Not you and not me. The ones who don't make these deals don't get in power so will you please cut the " Don't you love demoncracy." bullshit. It makes you sound like a dropped child who just found out Santa doesn't exist. Just because I can't draw up the complex plans of a perfect democracy doesn't make the flaws in the one we're in any less grevious.

My arguement was that freewill in the terms of any democracy is an illusion, the ones pulling the strings are the ones in big business.
Money is king, now you can either accept that or you can't but don't expect me to sit here and validate your opinion that your vote counts. It doesn't. Its just a choice between mouthpiece a and mouthpiece b who despite taking different strategies to their election campaigns will both inevitably make the same decisions in power with minimal deviation from their "sponsors" plans.
Deal with it.

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No matter what side you vote for you'll still get the same result. A candidate who will make handshakes with people who had power before he was in office, will gain power while hes in office and will continue to gain power after he has left office. These handshakes will determine his policies, his statements and his terms. This will have occured with his predecessor and will inevitably occur with his successor.
The candidates are puppets and the puppeteers are many, even should all of these puppeteers succumb to old age most will have a heir to their legacies or be replaced by a competitor.
So don't you worry your pretty little heads off about voting wether you live in America, Spain, France, Russia, Germany, England, Greece, Turkey, etc etc.
Democracy is a stage, the elections just another performance and your freewill a carefully constructed illusion.

If free will is an illusion then how can any be 'puppeteers'? Oh I know what has to come next: because the puppeteers themselves have strings .. yada yada yada.

Mostly the free will debate strikes me as just a waste of time. But then you see it used to justify acquiescing to whatever will come. If only it were possible for everyone to benefit from history. Why does everyone need to make this mistake? It certainly plays into the hands of those who would concentrate wealth into the hands of the very few.

Okay, you get one more try. How about falsifiability? Is that important to you? If so then perhaps you could realize that the no free will illusion is not falsifiable. We reject gods over this, why not absurd paradoxes of human affairs? People exist. They operate pretty much the way you do. Some of those people will make you much worse off if you do nothing. Resistance is not futile.

A peoples freewill in a demoncracy is an illusion.
Probably should of clarified that, my bad.
My arguement wasn't that resistance is futile, it is that we live in a demoncracy where both options lead to the same destination.
The games rigged.