RE: Origin of Articles
July 3, 2012 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: July 3, 2012 at 5:27 pm by genkaus.)
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Nope. All this tells me that you did not understand what I wrote.
Not necessarily. First you have to establish that there was even a "before".
Definitely not your god - given the inherent logical contradiction is his existence.
This presupposes the "before" part and is therefore illogical.
Wrong question. First establish that there was a "before".
Laws of physics deal with concretes. Laws of logic deal with abstractions of those concretes. Both, however, begin with study of the matter.
(June 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm)elunico13 Wrote: So is it safe to say you have changed your mind about humans creating laws of logic like you mentioned before? We are discovering them and have access to them with our minds.
Nope. All this tells me that you did not understand what I wrote.
(June 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm)elunico13 Wrote: Laws of logic were not created and had to have existed before the creation of the universe.
Not necessarily. First you have to establish that there was even a "before".
(June 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm)elunico13 Wrote: Logic is the very nature of God.
Definitely not your god - given the inherent logical contradiction is his existence.
(June 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm)elunico13 Wrote: Without logic before the universe then there would be no logical reason for the universe to exist in the first place.
This presupposes the "before" part and is therefore illogical.
(June 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm)elunico13 Wrote: Do you still believe laws of logic didn't exist before the universe? If so, why?
Wrong question. First establish that there was a "before".
(June 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm)elunico13 Wrote: (your still confusing laws of physics with laws of logic. Logic doesn't come from the behavior of matter. When we study matter then laws of physics are discovered)
Laws of physics deal with concretes. Laws of logic deal with abstractions of those concretes. Both, however, begin with study of the matter.