RE: The Stage is Yours.
July 4, 2012 at 9:15 pm
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2012 at 9:17 pm by Reforged.)
(July 4, 2012 at 8:44 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(July 4, 2012 at 7:36 pm)Rayaan Wrote: Technically, I was actually attributing complexity to my belief in some kind of an intelligence or a mind in the universe which would be God/Allah/or whatever name you want to call it. I never said that complexity necessarily implies the existence of God, though, unlike you where you simply said that the Christian God "necessarily exists as the only reasonable conclusion" without providing any reasoning.Technically you did exactly what i said. You mix up empiricism with metaphisics. Intelligence = scientific facts = link to allah. (I mean this as no insult here)
I didn't provide details, no. It is my assertion that all conclusions lead back to god. They don't lead back to no god. I'm not condemning any other world view there, just laying down the criteria. If you believe that your own view works out, and I hope you do, I haven't found that.
(July 4, 2012 at 7:36 pm)Rayaan Wrote: Also, you haven't pointed out exactly which of my scientific claims are in conflict according to your opinion and/or why they are in conflict. Easier said than done.
Well ive seen many Islamic presentions claiming scientific precedence from koranic texts. I'm sure you're very aware of these.
(July 4, 2012 at 8:25 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Oh yes, I agree but fr0d0 doesn't seem to concur. I'm wondering his reasons for thinking the Muslim interpretation false and his own correct.
I don't object. We are all products of our environnent. Given mine precisely though, I dont think you'd easily see me becoming a theist.
Right so you admit the main reason you're a Christian is because you were born in a country where Christianity is dominant?
If so how can you claim your religion to be anymore plausable than Rayaans or any others for that matter?
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.