Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 23, 2024, 5:07 am

Thread Rating:
  • 1 Vote(s) - 4 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
I have an honest question for theists.
#28
RE: I have an honest question for theists.
(July 5, 2012 at 8:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: How about this argument, which is not a knock out one (not conclusive):

Morality is inspiring with God.
Morality is not inspiring without God.
We are inspired by morality whether we acknowledge God or not.
Therefore God exists.

Not only is it not a knockout, it doesn't even lace up it's boxing gloves. It's loaded with fallacies.

Premise 1 begs the question and assumes the conclusion.
Premise 2 More question begging.
Premise 3 more question begging.

The conclusion does not follow from the premises.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
I have an honest question for theists. - by Annik - July 5, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by fr0d0 - July 6, 2012 at 5:13 am
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by fr0d0 - July 6, 2012 at 2:53 am
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by Rayaan - July 5, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by Simon Moon - July 5, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by fr0d0 - July 6, 2012 at 5:14 am
RE: I have an honest question for theists. - by Gaest - July 6, 2012 at 7:44 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Serious question about thoughts on theists Kingpin 118 6937 May 18, 2023 at 2:44 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Question to theists purplepurpose 172 27102 June 21, 2018 at 4:18 am
Last Post: purplepurpose
  I have a question about religious parents Der/die AtheistIn 22 3811 January 25, 2018 at 7:56 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Theists, Who would You Rather Have as a Neighbor Rhondazvous 23 7857 November 10, 2017 at 6:44 pm
Last Post: vorlon13
  Should Theists have the burden of proof at the police and court? Vast Vision 16 5315 July 10, 2017 at 1:34 pm
Last Post: Jesster
  An Honest Man Minimalist 4 2459 July 9, 2017 at 8:49 pm
Last Post: Fireball
  A simple question for theists masterofpuppets 86 21570 April 10, 2017 at 11:12 am
Last Post: emjay
  Theists: What is the most compelling argument you have heard for Atheism? PETE_ROSE 455 104964 April 5, 2017 at 12:34 pm
Last Post: RoadRunner79
  Going to be brutally honest [Religion Edition] dyresand 3 1424 August 25, 2016 at 5:25 am
Last Post: LastPoet
  Forum theists: when you have a moment, please... Athene 125 27430 October 27, 2015 at 11:09 am
Last Post: Mr Greene



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)