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What do you have to be?
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RE: What do you have to be?
(July 6, 2012 at 12:19 pm)Metonymie Wrote: That's true, of course. But it is not what I was up to.
I mean if you'd claim "I think, there is no god" it would have further implications. If you'd say, for example, "I think there is no god, but I think there is an ultimate truth" (idealistic) you couldn't argue against god, because god is part of an idealistic worldview, too. You could only argue in your idealistic system and propably wouldn't get a result (except, of course, "I believe", "I favour"...)
Therefore, I think, an atheist can't be an idealist and has to be a materialist (If he/she is interested in creating a worldview full of integrity).

That seems completely wrong. Just because God has to be Idealist (i.e., He is immaterial) doesn't mean that Idealists must assent to his existence. That's like saying that because unicorns are material objects, materialists can't object to their existence.
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
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What do you have to be? - by Metonymie - July 6, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 10:18 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by Ace Otana - July 6, 2012 at 10:24 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by Metonymie - July 6, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 10:49 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by Metonymie - July 6, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by Metonymie - July 6, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: What do you have to be? - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 12:28 pm
RE: What do you have to be? - by Metonymie - July 6, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: What do you have to be? - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: What do you have to be? - by Metonymie - July 6, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: What do you have to be? - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: What do you have to be? - by Metonymie - July 6, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: What do you have to be? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by Mister Agenda - July 6, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by CliveStaples - July 6, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: What do you have to be? - by downbeatplumb - July 6, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RE: What do you have to be? - by Angrboda - July 7, 2012 at 6:52 am
RE: What do you have to be? - by Metonymie - July 7, 2012 at 11:49 am



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