(July 6, 2012 at 12:38 pm)CliveStaples Wrote:(July 6, 2012 at 12:36 pm)Metonymie Wrote: That's not what I meant.
I mean any philosophy with a god in it (like plato's or like a religion), is an idealistic one. You can't argue with plato's theories that the christian god doesn't exist.
Well, sure. But that's not because of their Idealism. It's because of their Theism. Of course you can't be an atheist if you subscribe to a Theist worldview.
Oh...
you're right. I shouldn't have used the term "god".
But I guess you can say, that any idealism is "divine" in a way.
That's at least how I see it.
If you take Plato and leave the parts out in which he actually mentions god, you could say it is atheistic.
But his theories about the higher spheres (or levels or however it's called in english) have something supernatural anyway.
And I claim, as an atheist you can't accept Plato (even without god), because it wouldn't fit into a worldview full of integrity.
P.S.
I propably made several mistakes by now. Sorry, my english is anything but perfect.