RE: I can feel your anger
July 6, 2012 at 11:38 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2012 at 12:13 am by Selliedjoup.)
(July 6, 2012 at 7:43 am)Faith No More Wrote:Selliedjoup Wrote:I just intensely dislike the supposed intellectual high-ground many atheists attempt to give themselves. It just reeks of self-righteousness, again like some religious groups.
Oh, the irony.
Why is it ironic? The only high ground I take is admitting I don't know.
Atheists disbelieve in a god, and then assert it's rational to due so, but lack any validated means to disbelieve. It's as rational as saying a god does exist.
(July 6, 2012 at 10:23 pm)gringoperry Wrote:(July 6, 2012 at 9:51 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: Claiming to be right without justification seems to be another shared trait of some atheists and theists.
I respect these theists more as at least they follow a code, some atheists read a few books, use some flawed arguments and claim to possess 'truth'. All very dire.
I'm guessing you're attempting to imply I'm immoral for daring to criticise atheism. Interesting that you think that, if your claim uses any form of logic to reach your conclusion you should be able to defend it without claiming I'm immoral or just giving out pointless insults. Why do people on forums think others give a shit on how they're viewed?
Where did I say Stalin killed for atheism? I said people use any reason to justify killing, blaming religion is all too easy.
I think any atheist who attempts to portray their views as 'correct' and belittles any non-atheist as deluded simply because they don't hold the same view is arrogant.
Somehow Hawking's belief transcends what it is, it's just another person's belief. If people think it holds more weight, this is where scientists begin to replace ministers/priests, which is in itself, ironic.
Also, while I agree with a lot of what militant atheists do; at least in their doggedness at stopping religion from encroaching on government and law, sometimes it goes a little too extremist. By which I mean, when outright propaganda and lies are used, it takes away from what the movement should be about. Plus you have the victims who go into a religious debate armed with this piece of info, which turns out to be completely untrue.
Quote:I don't like self-righteous people in general, however, it is pretty difficult to assign that label to any one group of people, when you think about it. The majority of us are self-righteous to some degree. It's a very dominant human trait, which has its uses. It is also a trait that I think will die out in time, as we evolve socially and create more advanced supporting technologies. As for now, don't let it frustrate you too much, there are more productive things you could ponder on.
Did someone murder Selliedjoup when he was halfway through replying to my comment?
No I had to go. I must admit I find it amusing how some people here pretend to be some sort of paragon of virtue and then make a stupidly aggressive comment. Good cop, bad cop approach only works if it's not too obvious.