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Expelled
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RE: Expelled
(October 31, 2008 at 1:43 pm)Daystar Wrote:
(October 31, 2008 at 12:17 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: Wauw, so much for monotheistic religion then. Smile

Seriously? I don't see a conflict there. The Bible is pretty clear that there are many 'gods' and 'lords' but to us (the believer) there is only one God above all.

There are indeed many Christians who would disagree, but hey, if thats what you believe I'm fine with that, its your standard after all.

(October 31, 2008 at 1:43 pm)Daystar Wrote:
(October 31, 2008 at 12:17 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: Great, now all I need is the why do you think it has merit part of the question.

Why do I think it has merit or why does it have merit to me?

Why would something that has merit to you not have merit to others?

(October 31, 2008 at 1:43 pm)Daystar Wrote: To me it (God and true Christianity) is important because it tells us about creation and the creator. What, simply, is going on. I think it is important to be presented to everyone because of that - so that each person can be educated and make an informed decision regarding the subject. This is important to the skeptic and the believer alike.

Okay I with you so far, so what does it tell you about the creation and the creator? What IS going on according to your interpretation?

(October 31, 2008 at 1:43 pm)Daystar Wrote:
(October 31, 2008 at 12:17 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: Anyway: What does God/Jesus/Baal/FSM/Buddha/Ganesh care who you sleep with or how? That sounds even more stupid to me.

There was a purpose for creation which the creator set in place and homosexuality is counter productive to that purpose and therefore detestable to the creator, Jehovah God.

The question from your perspective, though, isn't really what God cares about my sexuality because I have a choice. To you and most skeptics it is a question of cultural tolerance. Lets say that someone had a sexual attraction to animals or vegetables. Culturally that isn't as acceptable as homosexuality is now.

Sure, but of you imply that I think it would be immoral that a guy sticks his penis in a watermelon or a girl gets off on a cucumber your wrong, I'm fine with that, whatever floats their boat.

When it comes to animals I do have a problem with that and that is not so much the act, as the fact that there is no consent from both sides. And if there is, it is not verifiable. Furthermore there is the risk of the animal getting hurt in the process. Morality about the act doesn't come into question to me here.

(October 31, 2008 at 1:43 pm)Daystar Wrote: Joseph was probably about 32 years old when he married Mary who was probably 14 - 16 years old. Culturally that was the norm but now it isn't. So your tolerance regarding sexual morality is no less limited than mine. It depends upon a fixed morality. Traditional and cultural.

Again you assume that I perceive something like this as immoral. As a matter of fact I don't object on grounds of morality as opposed to grounds of health. 16 is okay in my book, but sex and pregnancy at 14 carries the heightened risk of health issues. Specially in those days.

I thank you not to presume what I hold as moral or not. When in doubt, ask me. If anything I am very upfront about these things.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
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Messages In This Thread
Expelled - by Daystar - October 31, 2008 at 11:36 am
RE: Expelled - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 11:42 am
RE: Expelled - by Daystar - October 31, 2008 at 11:52 am
RE: Expelled - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:17 pm
RE: Expelled - by Daystar - October 31, 2008 at 1:43 pm
RE: Expelled - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 2:32 pm
RE: Expelled - by Daystar - October 31, 2008 at 4:29 pm
RE: Expelled - by Eilonnwy - October 31, 2008 at 12:37 pm
RE: Expelled - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 1:43 pm
RE: Expelled - by Daystar - October 31, 2008 at 1:58 pm
RE: Expelled - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 2:34 pm
RE: Expelled - by Eilonnwy - October 31, 2008 at 2:38 pm
RE: Expelled - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 2:52 pm
RE: Expelled - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 3:04 pm
RE: Expelled - by ManofGOD - November 1, 2008 at 7:39 am
RE: Expelled - by Eilonnwy - October 31, 2008 at 11:43 am
RE: Expelled - by Tiberius - October 31, 2008 at 12:55 pm
RE: Expelled - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:10 pm
RE: Expelled - by Daystar - October 31, 2008 at 11:02 pm
RE: Expelled - by leo-rcc - November 1, 2008 at 5:19 am
RE: Expelled - by Daystar - November 1, 2008 at 11:06 am



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