The debate is over

[Taqiyya Mockingbird]

Dodging the question Zen? Nice one

What about NOMA? Dawkins dismisses it without reason.

REALLY?????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-overlapping_magisteria

Richard Dawkins has criticized Gould's position on the grounds that religion does not, and cannot, be divorced from scientific matters or the material world. He writes, "it is completely unrealistic to claim, as Gould and many others do, that religion keeps itself away from science's turf, restricting itself to morals and values. A universe with a supernatural presence would be a fundamentally and qualitatively different kind of universe from one without. The difference is, inescapably, a scientific difference. Religions make existence claims, and this means scientific claims."[9] Gould's observation that "These two magisteria do not overlap..." does not consider the claims of many religions upon material reality, such as miracles or prayer.

Dawkins also argues that a religion free of divine intervention would be far different from any existent ones, and certainly different from the Abrahamic religions. Moreover, he claims that religions would be only too happy to accept scientific claims that supported their views. For example, if DNA evidence proved that Jesus had no earthly father, Dawkins claims that the argument of non-overlapping magisteria would be quickly dropped.[10]

Dawkins makes a more fundamental criticism of NOMA by stating that not all grammatically correct questions are legitimate (for example, "What does the color red smell like?"), and thus the Why? questions of religion do not necessarily deserve an answer.[11]


^ Dawkins, Richard (1998). "When Religion Steps on Science's Turf". Free Inquiry. Retrieved 2008-09-13.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/f..._18_2.html

^ Dawkins, Richard (2006). "Why There Almost Certainly Is No God". Huffington Post. Retrieved 2010-03-20.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-da...32164.html

^ Dawkins, Richard (2006). The God Delusion. Black Swan. ISBN 978-0-552-77331-7.

How the hell does that look like "without reason" to you? How the hell does that look like "ignorance" to you?