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Voiding Free Will
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RE: Voiding Free Will
(July 13, 2012 at 1:09 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Here's a simple thought:

Assuming that those who claim they have literally heard God speak had a genuine experience wouldn't it mean that their life has been altered forever? They cannot live how they like anymore because they have an undeniably tangible experience that proves to them personally that God is real.

I see faith as the use of one's free will. One chooses to have faith in something but after such an experience faith is no longer needed. You have but ONE choice and that is to serve the God who showed himself to you UNMISTAKEABLY.

Free will is gone.

I agree, choosing Christ through faith is the only true free will we have, we can decide later to leave that faith through free will, outside of this God is in control. One may have a choice of his/her own or not, no one will ever know if they made that choice or not it will always seem that way. Jonah had to be pushed along by God, he heard from God and still resisted God's will, just because one hears from God will one always respond to Him.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Voiding Free Will - by FallentoReason - July 13, 2012 at 1:09 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Tempus - July 13, 2012 at 2:13 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by FallentoReason - July 13, 2012 at 3:00 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Napoléon - July 13, 2012 at 4:17 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Tempus - July 13, 2012 at 5:41 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by jonb - July 13, 2012 at 3:50 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 13, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Godschild - July 13, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Gambit - July 13, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RE: Voiding Free Will - by jonb - July 13, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Gambit - July 13, 2012 at 8:46 pm
RE: Voiding Free Will - by jonb - July 13, 2012 at 8:52 pm
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Reforged - July 13, 2012 at 8:57 pm
RE: Voiding Free Will - by FallentoReason - July 14, 2012 at 6:34 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Tempus - July 14, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by toro - July 14, 2012 at 11:09 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Angrboda - July 15, 2012 at 7:37 am
RE: Voiding Free Will - by Drich - July 15, 2012 at 2:04 pm

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