(July 15, 2012 at 2:12 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(July 15, 2012 at 1:26 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: We realize that this is how you operate, but we are the grown-ups who actually know what they mean.
I have yet to see such evidence, is my point.
Debate is wonderful, but you guys name drop names of logical faux pa around like they were insults instead of actually using the example to help make a point, because the argument you reference never actually applies in reality to what you are saying. Hence my point about needing some grown ups to actually contend what is being said rather than all of this meaningless adolescent name calling.
AF.org is a good atheist lead place where sincere people can debate each other fairly and honestly. You guys display the opposite tendancies.
Perhaps we just attract the more pig-headed theists?
Actually, I challenge you to point out where I was incorrect in my assessment of Jeff's past exchange with me and other members here. Had he addressed my arguments head on instead of misconstrewing them past recognition and had he avoided throwing up red herrings about why logic is reliable, my determination of him would have changed accordingly.
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell