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Obama and Guantanamo Bay
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RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay
(July 15, 2012 at 2:21 pm)Annik Wrote: However, you cannot make a judgement on it. You don't have any evidence.
Indeed, and I don't see anywhere where Shell said you could. Thus, Hovik's comment is entirely baseless, as is apophenia's accusation of lying.

Shell said many of them are guilty (as in, they really did commit a crime), a statement supported by the fact that we've actually tried and convicted people in Guantanamo Bay. She did not state that they were "found guilty", nor did she support the idea of a place like Guantanamo where people can be held indefinitely without trial.

Indeed, her main point (sadly missed due to the misrepresentation of other things she said) was that there are most probably terrorists being held there, and not many Americans would like to see them on American soil, held in American prisons. You can't just close Guantanamo Bay down; you need to plan where you are going to move the prisoners. If Guantanamo can't be closed, it is surely better to reform it so that it follows the American justice system, and not the cruel inhumane system it currently has.
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Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by goddamnit - July 14, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by goddamnit - July 14, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 6:24 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Minimalist - July 14, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 14, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Minimalist - July 14, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 14, 2012 at 7:16 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 14, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 14, 2012 at 7:32 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by goddamnit - July 15, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by goddamnit - July 15, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by goddamnit - July 15, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by goddamnit - July 15, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Tiberius - July 15, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 2:21 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Tiberius - July 15, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 14, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by padraic - July 14, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Minimalist - July 14, 2012 at 8:26 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 14, 2012 at 9:25 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by cratehorus - July 14, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by cratehorus - July 14, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 10:41 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by cratehorus - July 14, 2012 at 11:00 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by cratehorus - July 14, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 14, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Jackalope - July 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Autumnlicious - July 14, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 14, 2012 at 11:09 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Angrboda - July 15, 2012 at 6:38 am
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by goddamnit - July 14, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Tiberius - July 15, 2012 at 7:25 am
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Angrboda - July 15, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 4:02 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Nine - July 15, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Tiberius - July 15, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Tiberius - July 15, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 4:23 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Tiberius - July 15, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 5:13 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 5:21 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Tiberius - July 15, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Tiberius - July 15, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Hovik - July 15, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Autumnlicious - July 15, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Autumnlicious - July 15, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Cyberman - July 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 5:48 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Cyberman - July 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by goddamnit - July 15, 2012 at 5:48 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Nine - July 15, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Tiberius - July 15, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Creed of Heresy - July 15, 2012 at 6:53 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Ashendant - July 15, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Creed of Heresy - July 16, 2012 at 1:56 am
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by Shell B - July 15, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by paintpooper - July 17, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: Obama and Guantanamo Bay - by jackman - July 30, 2012 at 8:19 pm

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