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Shia - Sunni issue.
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RE: Shia - Sunni issue.
(July 17, 2012 at 5:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:So in that worldview, I would say, yes, it matters.

I can't see where blowing up a market and killing 50 people solves much of anything.

Let's face it. These fuckers simply hate each other for the stupidest of reasons and it isn't something that can be undone.

And, liberals endorse the wholesale killing of innocent people ([1] and [2]). How you frame the question, and how you interpret things, matters critically in determining what conclusions are reached. Simply retorting that "my conclusions are correct," or that "yours are unjustified," or simply "you're crazy," doesn't actually meet the question. That you find the consequences undesirable or unjustified — to you — again doesn't meet the question. Sam Harris made the same mistake in The Moral Landscape in arguing that what constituted the good — to him — was in fact identical with the good, that the two are one and the same. Not only is this mere bare assertion and ipse dixit, it is also an example of a form of thinking which you would not accept as valid if used by someone whose views you disagreed with.

If you don't justify your beliefs, I fail to see the difference between you and them.

Your answer, as best I can make out, is no answer. And possibly worse than.


[1] Referring of course to legalized abortion.

[2] We also regularly confine people to small, unpleasant and cramped condition, and deprive them of material pleasures and freedoms that we generally take for granted; and we even occasionally kill them. We feel this is justified by our theories of justice. All the same, we are treating a large population, especially in the U.S., horribly and brutally. If our theory of justice is wrong, our treatment of them is wrong. If our theory of justice is "mostly right" then that means it is "partly wrong," and that, therefore, part of that population which is being horrendously treated is being harmed unjustifiably.


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Messages In This Thread
Shia - Sunni issue. - by MysticKnight - July 16, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Minimalist - July 16, 2012 at 11:48 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Angrboda - July 17, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Pope Alfred - July 17, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Mister Agenda - July 17, 2012 at 10:37 am
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Anomalocaris - July 17, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by MysticKnight - July 17, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Thor - July 17, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Anomalocaris - July 17, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Minimalist - July 17, 2012 at 5:01 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Angrboda - July 19, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by KichigaiNeko - July 18, 2012 at 7:28 am
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Minimalist - July 19, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by apostopare - August 30, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Thor - August 30, 2012 at 10:16 am
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by apostopare - August 30, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by Thor - August 31, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by padraic - August 30, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Shia - Sunni issue. - by kılıç_mehmet - September 2, 2012 at 9:49 am

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