(July 26, 2012 at 4:18 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: It's very simple to get rid of me, admit you have a belief or justify why it's not. So far whateverist admitted it and I respect him for that.
So, back to the point at hand. I propose materialism is a belief on the basis that there is no justified reason to believe it to be correct, therefore it's a belief. Science may be the best means we have to assess the evidence, this does not mean it must be able to obtain all evidence (for example, our ability to observe could limit what can be obtained). If you can outline why it must be able to answer the question, this would justify your view and make it rational until then it's a belief.
Justify it and I'll go away. I thought atheists loved to demonstrate their intellectual prowess?
If you have evidence that materialism is incorrect then let's see it.
Everything that we know exists has evidence for it, that is how we know it exists.
There are many things in this universe that we don't have knowledge of, life on other planets, physical laws that we are yet to discover, many, many species on this very planet which we are yet to identify.
But until such time as we do have evidence for them we have no reason to think they exist.
And the same goes for your god.
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