RE: Hi All - From Lion IRC
July 30, 2012 at 2:13 pm
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2012 at 2:32 pm by Lion IRC.)
(July 30, 2012 at 8:42 am)LastPoet Wrote:(July 29, 2012 at 11:05 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(bold mine)
Hi All,
Another friendly theist for your ranks. Greetings!
I love respectful dialogue and free speech - the contest of ideas.
Philosophy, AvT, ethics/morality, the "New Atheism" phenomenon.
Hmmm, I for one am not paused by whatever 'not respectfull dialogue' there may be. However, take a look at the embolded part of my quote, it is a contradiction: not respectfull dialogue is still speech, since you also love free speech, you deny the latter. But I diverge, so:
Respectful dialogue and free speech are not mutually exclusive.
Dialogue.
(July 30, 2012 at 11:24 am)RaphielDrake Wrote:(July 30, 2012 at 8:10 am)Lion IRC Wrote: Thanks Napoleon. (Cool cat etc etc.)You win a retort.
Fishing for minnows with a shark net is not the ideal basis to conclude that there's no minnows in the ocean.
Or as Abraham Maslow said, when the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Yay!
Did I win a prize or something?
er... no... no. It isn't a basis to conclude that at all. No-one ever having obtained any evidence of a Minnow even existing would be though.
I'm also fairly certain you'd still be able to tell a nail from say... a patient in an operating theatre. I think you'd notice your tool isn't ideal for the circumstance so you'd see that you need to obtain some knowledge of the anatomy and a scalpel to even begin tackling that problem. You wouldn't just go "oh well" and start hammering away at the patients stomach. I would suggest that science is the scalpel and religion is the hammer.
Your analogies kind of fall flat.
Not the stomach.
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Never mind. Not everyone gets the analogy.
Cant expect one-size-fits-all