(July 31, 2012 at 3:18 am)Selliedjoup Wrote:(July 31, 2012 at 1:16 am)whateverist Wrote: But then you are dismissing atheism as the mere state of finding no active beliefs in gods active in ones thoughts or actions. How can you possibly know that is true? I say that of all the beliefs regarding gods which I hold, my belief that I've never heard a convincing case for accepting rationally that gods do or that gods don't exist is by far the most important. I say that makes me agnostic. Secondarily, I note that no belief in gods or the possible existence of gods motivate any of my thoughts or actions. This, I say, makes me an atheist. No big deal. Just the way it is for me as best I can tell.
People require a rationale to any conclusion they've reached. I find it very unlikely with the strong support of materialism/naturalism amongst atheists that determines the 'no active belief' position.
Of course I don't know it to be true, I just find it contradictory based on my perception of what I hold to be true.
Seems a little solipsistic to me. You're going to stick with your theory of what's true for me in spite of my direct report to the contrary. Your call.
