RE: The Stage is Yours.
August 2, 2012 at 1:44 am
(This post was last modified: August 2, 2012 at 1:45 am by Rayaan.)
(August 1, 2012 at 6:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: "exists as" not exists in reality. I'll forgive your poor grasp of the language smiler
That can mean either of the two below:
(A) God doesn't exist in reality, but exists only in the metaphysical world; or
(B) That God just cannot be proven to exist in reality.
I believe that you're implying letter B, most likely.
But, whichever it is, they both clearly and logically contradict your statement that God is "directly and personally knowable" as you said earlier (in post # 151):
(July 15, 2012 at 5:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (In Xtianity God is directly and personally knowable)
And that is because you believe that Jesus is God, that Jesus is fully man and fully God at the same time, that the sacrifice of Jesus is actually the sacrifice of God, and that people have seen him and met him in real life. Hence your statement that the Christian God is "directly and personally knowable."
But, if the Christian God is directly and personally knowable, then it is definitely contradictory to say that His existence cannot be proven in reality.
Similarly, if the Christian God is directly and personally knowable, then belief in Him cannot be just a metaphysical stance.
*search ninja*
(February 10, 2011 at 2:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: God's existence can't be known. Bomb proof.https://atheistforums.org/thread-5979-po...#pid116956
(July 14, 2011 at 6:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Belief is a metaphysical stance. Welcome to the dark side.https://atheistforums.org/thread-7634-po...#pid154351
Those two comments from different threads clearly contradict your statement that God is directly and personally knowable.
Proof:
God is directly and personally knowable =/= God's existence can't be known
God is directly and personally knowable =/= metaphysical
I'm sorry, fr0d0, but I can't help but think that you're intentionally evasive and dishonest in your replies, especially knowing how many times you contradict yourself.
(August 1, 2012 at 6:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Meanwhile, give me 2 weeks and I'll get back to you
Take it easy on yourself. If you do reply after 2 weeks (or whatever amount of time), then I would like you reply to this post as well, not just the one above you.
Here's an escape trick for you:
If you think that you are unable to satisfactorily address my comments, then pretend as if you forgot to reply in this thread after the 2 weeks. Don't worry, though, because I'll forgive you. =D
