RE: The Stage is Yours.
August 2, 2012 at 3:24 pm
(This post was last modified: August 2, 2012 at 3:24 pm by Reforged.)
(August 2, 2012 at 2:06 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Well that's the crux of the matter that I need to get you to address Raph. I need to be precise in my language for those that don't understand the subtelties, and sometimes I forget that. Apologies for confusing you.Yes. Of course. Everyone else is at fault for your obvious lack of language skills.
Are we also at fault for you inventing new words such as "subtelties"?
(August 2, 2012 at 2:06 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You may have seen me extend that statement to "we cannot have empirical evidence of a god". Even Dorkins will make this correct assessment, but then still contradict that by citing the lack of empirical evidence again.So you think thats an excuse for your ridiculous assumption? Empirical evidence is all we have to go on and you don't even have that. Just to be sure everyone knows what empirical evidence is by the way;
What have we got left if there isn't empirical evidence? Is there evidence besides the empirical? This is the new world you are seemingly unaware of.
"Empirical research is research that derives its data by means of direct observation or experiment, such research is used to answer a question or test a hypothesis (e.g. "Does something such as a type of medical treatment work?")."
So basically solid evidence. You're bitching because we want solid evidence of your God existing and don't accept your claims you don't need solid evidence to prove such a claim. Well I'm very sorry, you do if you want your claim to be plausible. You have no reason to think such proof is not out there. Whether you can obtain it or not is not my problem. Its your claim, you go back it up.
We'll wait right here.
And where is this new world you speak of? Where did you get the idea it existed? You have nothing. This is compounded by your immaturity in referring to a respected individual in his field as "dorkins".
Its hilarious you would mock someone who is far more educated than you for being a successful author with alot of good points to raise.
What exactly have *you* achieved?
(August 2, 2012 at 2:06 am)fr0d0 Wrote: As a materialist I would expect you to deny this world exists. See if you can't surprise me.Materialist? What? Because I'm someone who uses his senses as opposed to his imagination when discerning what reality encompasses?
Also, I don't say nothing is beyond material matter. I can't claim to know that and neither can you. I say I need proof that there is before I consider the claim plausible.
Before you say there cannot be proof of the metaphysical, how the fuck do you know that?
Deny? Whats to deny? You haven't shown me anything aside from wishful thinking so far.
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