Prayer?

[Drich]

The point I was making was to prove you were apart of a 43 page discussion about how long adam and eve could have potentially remained in the garden and why. then when this came up again in this thread it was as if someone rebooted you and did not save any of the pervious work.

Oh I see; you were being a smartarse. Ok, I can play that game too. It's taken 43 pages to get to where A&E could have been imprisoned in their garden for trillions of years, just because the bible story doesn't give a number? Well then, this is just another point which shows that the story and characters involved therein - including the biblegod - have no connection with reality, a.k.a. the Universe in which we actually live, at least as far as your interpretation allows.

We only have around fourteen and a half thousand million years to play with, and the Earth has only been around for the last four and a half thousand million years of that. Out of that period, our species has only been around for something like two hundred thousand years.

Whether you take the word trillion to mean (n)000,000,000,000 or the mathematically more correct (n)000,000,000,000,000,000 - where (n) is whatever number your arse dispenses - reality is shaking its head at you in pity.

As I explained earilier 'Trillion' is a silly concept/number but if you insist on putting into an mathmatical equasion (still all of which was already mentioned in a perveious explaination) "trillion" (N) is what ever number or how many ever zeros you want to put on the time span between the 6 litteral days of creation and the fall of man that happened around 6000 years ago. so no matter how long you need to put between yourself and the dawn of creation, for the sake of my arguement 'trillion' (N) is that number.

Probably because i can not picture any thing larger without getting lost in the numbers. (It's my upper limit)

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We're given the days of creation, and we're given the years of Adams life. Not that either of these numbers means much to me, because they're bullshit. I'm wondering why they are insufficient for you?
(feel free to insert whatever extra-biblical excuse you like for these numbers -I know there are a few-)

We've had this discussion already, have you reset and forgotten your part in beating the dead horse as well? Here is the refresher:

Evolved man or "monkey man" is man without a soul, and In the Garden Man created in the image of God, would be man with a soul. That would leave room for whole complete fossil record that could not biblically be reconciled. It also explains the city Cain moved to and the wives and husbands the children of Adam and Eve took for themselves. (They intermingled with monkey man/woman and pass their gift onto their children.)

Now I know the goto verse to disprove this is in Genesis 5:4 After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. 5 So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years; and he died.

In the English it seems that Adam's total existence was 930 years. But when we look at the Hebrew the word that is translated "lived" is:Chaya it means:1) to live, have life, remain alive, sustain life etc... (In short Mortal life)

At the fall Adam's eternal existence with God died as promised in Gen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

When they were exiled they were given "Chay" which means a Mortal life, of plants, of animals, dependent on water.
Genesis 3:
17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:
“Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.

At this point Adam's immortality ended and his clock started on his 930 years. These were all of the days He spent on THIS Earth. (not the Garden/Presents of God/Heaven)


How do we know they were immortal in the Garden with God? because of Genesis 2:16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;

Amongest those trees was the tree of life. What did the tree of life do?

Genesis 3:22Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"--