(August 12, 2012 at 7:21 am)pgrimes15 Wrote:(July 31, 2012 at 10:45 pm)KnockEmOuttt Wrote: So I got into it with my father about religion today. I asked him how he could possibly believe in the Christian god without any shred of evidence, and he told me because he's had "divine experiences." When I asked for examples, he told me about how he's talked with the dead...like I mean straight up "I see dead people" stuff. Could there be a reasonable explanation for why he may have "experienced" this or should I just come to terms with the fact that my father is far crazier than I ever would have believed? Mind you it was mostly when he was younger and during a period of severe illness. Like a near death experience type of thing?
In my experience, this is the Xtian trump card, since it cannot be refuted, and any theological "discussion" with a god-botherer usually ends up here. (I of course make exception for the distinguished theists on AF !!). I find that to dissect their individual claims is quite effective i.e. "Was it a real voice that someone else could have heard or was it just in your head ?" or "Was it speaking English ?" or "Was it an actual manifestation that could have been recorded on video or seen by someone else ?".
Going down this road seems to sometimes cause difficulties for people who do not want to admit to "voices in the head".
Regards
Grimesy
A "Christian" who reads the Bible should know that talking to the dead is a no-no.
Soooo, tell him he's either talking to demons or he needs to see a shrink.
