The Need to Breed

[Cinjin]

Is putting hope into non-existent technologies any different than putting hope into non-existent displays of human behavior, or the boot of the state?

I don't really put hope in anything. I'm merely trying to determine what the best chance of survival is, and a sci-fi pipe dream has piss-poor odds. That being said, I don't condone killing anyone. I offered the killer pandemic scenario as an option that a government might consider, and if they do, well, your assault rifle isn't going to help you.

Of the three, I'll go with tech, personally. Waiting for human beings to wake up some day and align themselves -globally- to your ideas of what constitutes well reasoned or well educated (and specifically with regards to this issue) is akin to waiting for it to rain gumdrops. The day our state forces sterilization or summary executions of "surplus" personnel is the day I dust off my assault rifle (wait...wait....I think we've found a solution, a violent and bloody insurgency against a state that wishes to enforce population controls may just do the trick...and we might even be offing exactly the sorts of people that need to be offed- BONUS!). Again though, things like this in first world countries won't do much, because we already have a very low number of children on average, so I guess I'd need to buy a plane ticket and re-familiarize myself with shithole-ese.

I'm amazed that simply asking someone not to have children in order to insure survival of an entire species engages such a hostile reaction from you. As if children are some god-given right. Even if only the majority understand and comply for a few generations, it might be enough to keep from mandating sterilization - which I've already said I'm against. If the minority, the religious fundy hold-outs and those that simply do not seem to comprehend the importance of not overrunning our planet with people, refuse to stop making babies, we may still be able to thin the herd enough to significantly reduce our need for fossil fuels, water, food, and all the other resources we require.

or I can pretend that we're Battlestar Galactica and cold fusion is scientific fact rather than a theoretical long-shot.
Lets fix problems that are fixable. Use our superior intellect and forgo having children for a bit. Difficult yes, but not anywhere NEAR as difficult as distant planets, light speed, worm holes and all manner of things cooked up by Gene Roddenberry.

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time to vote for newt in 2016!!
let's get those moon colonies going.

yeah, lol, so we can spend billions to send food and water to a rock that has not a single natural resource.