The Need to Breed

[Cinjin]

Absolutely, human beings have needs, I don;t hold any grudges against anyone on that count. Nevertheless, theres a wide gulf between what they need and what we get (from them..no less). If there weren't, why would there be a problem with their numbers? Surely that many people are capable of producing all the products they need...right?

That's low man. Saying that you don't hold grudges against anyone for needing things implies that I was holding just such a grudge. I made no such remark nor was it implied.

Hell, even in the US the average human being eats food that traveled on average 1500 miles to get to their plate. Telling people that some overpopulated country doesn't put out quite as much emissions as some country less crowded and using it as an example of how population is not a factor is dishonest in my opinion.

"Quite as much" doesn't even come close, if you go down the honesty road this isn't going to be pretty Cinjin. Rather than calling me dishonest, or asking me what I'm selling, you could always handle this single objection that I've raised. I have been honest, I have provided numbers (we could dispute those numbers, that would be a start),

Obviously, if two people dispute what the other considers to be fact than both people have to run on the assumption that his opponent is being dishonest, if at the very least, only with himself. You sir, may consider me to be dishonest because I dispute what you consider to be fact just as I do the same. Don't take it as such the great insult. If I felt that you were being completely honest with yourself, we would have absolutely nothing to contest. I don't feel your point is at ALL fair, therefore I find it to be (not you personally, only your point) "dishonest."

I've asked a legitimate question (multiple times) and I get nothing.

I have answered the questions that I have deemed fair. You have answered my questions, most often, with only more questions. If out of the two of us, someone has avoided more direct questions - it has been you sir.

Look, you asked me if I was a science denier not but one post ago, what do you think those emission numbers are?

and? It was simply a question not an implication, as you made above. I wanted to know where the man I was debating stood on the issue. Now I know. Also, I did indeed read the link of the emission numbers you sent.