RE: The Need to Breed
August 20, 2012 at 2:50 am
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2012 at 2:53 am by Cinjin.)
(August 20, 2012 at 2:27 am)Rhythm Wrote: And? After reading that link you still feel that my objections or my questions in support of those objections are unfair? I would really like to know why. How am I supposed to offer you sdupport for my position if it's going to be dismissed as "unfair"? How are we going to have a discussion about this?
These questions seem to address the heart of the matter, so I'll simply bring it back down to these.
Yes, after reading the link I still find your objections unfair. What I'm curious about is why you think I didn't tell you why. I very clearly already told you why:
Cinjin Wrote:Regarding India and any other country that has slightly lower greenhouse emissions:
First of all, most of India is a shithole that has been in the dark ages up until recent. Secondly, the world is a global market, and just because India only recently became economically viable doesn't mean that they are not contributing to the "need" factor. They need products, they need fuel, they need all the stupid shit that we pretend to need in this world, and somewhere someone else has to make that shit and ship it all over the planet. Hell, even in the US the average human being eats food that traveled on average 1500 miles to get to their plate. Telling people that some overpopulated country doesn't put out quite as much emissions as some country less crowded and using it as an example of how population is not a factor is dishonest in my opinion. We live in a global market. That massive population is creating those emissions elsewhere and eventually they'll raise their own numbers. Lets see if India's doing so well with their emissions in 30 years. Predictions? Everybody loves 'em.
The bold remarks is the basic premise of why I think it was unfair to use India's low emissions as a justification for unlimited, and what amounts to, irresponsible population growth.
Since you feel India is the shining example of population and it's "non-effect" on global warming, does this mean the human race should have carte blanche on breeding into oblivion with no concern about what effects we are supposedly not having on our planet?
EDIT: I gotta get some sleep. I'll pick up with this again soon as I can.