The bible

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I know that they were written after but isn't that kind of self explanatory since his death was a fulfillment of prophecy. If it was written before there would have been no way to know that it was full filled.

The parts of the NT that fulfill OT prophecies could indeed be just that - fulfilled prophecies.

Or it could be that the person writing the NT in the 2nd century had a copy of the Jewish Torah open in front of him, and was working his way through a ckecklist of prophecy fulfillments that he had to incorporate into his new tome since these things add weight to a new religion you're inventing.

Given these two alternatives, magic or human manipulation, I know what I would choose.

Also his death was what marked the actual start of the new law. This was first preached on the day of Pentecost. Some people dont realize that there is an old law and new law. Before there were the resources of of mass communication there was a need of miracles and things of that nature to spread the word. After Christ was born and grew he gave only them these gifts to prove he is real. After his death he was resurrected as was prophesied setting the new law standards. acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remissions of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. In being baptized we are baptized into Christ death and brought out to walk a newness of life (romans 6:1-9).

Most of this seems to be religious gobble-de-gook that would be of interest only to the fellow believers of your chosen religion. Try not to quote the bible as "evidence", and assume that most atheists on this forum are familiar with the basics of Xtianity - they just don't believe it.

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Grimesy

There's a problem with your reasoning, the Jews did not believe in the kind of Messiah that is written about in the NT. There was no such teaching at all of the Christ of the NT, that is until His life revealed the truth of prophecy.

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I would like to ask the question why is the Bible not historically correct? Can someone in some detail tell me why it cannot be correct or where it is said to be contradictory and also where it has mistakes?
thank you.

So you're ok with the earth being flat. Or the cure for leprosy involving a dead beard in an earthen pot over running water. Or the fact that your god inflicted livestock with boils that he himself had already killled. The fact that Jesus has two different lineages through a dude (Joseph) that didn't have the priviledge of the shag? Light created before the sun. The moon has its own light source. The laws of physics were suspended for the express purpose of extermination.

My reciprocal question is this...
How does an adult human being read the bible and not conclude that it is a collection of stories written by semi-savages? If I were the creator of the universe and took time to notice this particular book written in my name, I would immediately wipe all traces of the book and its believers (without a fucking flood, or paint on hinges) in an attempt to reconcile the insult.

What more detail do you require?

Please show Biblical proof of your statements, book, chapter and verses.

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I know that they were written after but isn't that kind of self explanatory since his death was a fulfillment of prophecy.

Well no it wasn't, not even close. Perhaps go to the trouble of reading what the Jews actually believed about the Messiah and still do.

Also his death was what marked the actual start of the new law.

Umm,no,it wasn't:

Matthew 5:17-19

King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Thanks for the verses Pad, you should think about what they say. Verse 17 Jesus came to fulfill the law and prophets. He did just that, until Christ came the Jews as a whole looked for a military Messiah, Christ fulfilled what the prophets wrote and was a Messiah of peace. Then Christ did not change the law, He fulfilled it by saying that the laws are broken in the heart and not necessarily by physical action. Verse 18 Jesus did not change the law but fulfilled it, Christ was the fulfillment of the OT and at the resurrection, Christ was not talking about the fulfillment of the NT. Verse 19 Christ shows that works does not cause one to not get into heaven.