Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: February 16, 2025, 2:11 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Thread on Asatru
#8
RE: Thread on Asatru
Quote:Of course you do, likely because you feel the need to search for validation for your own ethnocentric garbage from what you perceive to be the ethnocentrism of others. It's not important whether or not that ethnocentrism is actually present, only that you can assure yourself that it is.
Well, to call it "germanic paganism" is to be ethnocentric. It means that it's the ancient religious practices of a specific ethnicity.
It is present, because it has to be. Or it'd just be called "paganism" and would not even use a germanic word which draws it's roots from old norse.
It worships the pantheon of Aesir, which was specific to the Germanic peoples, and to a lesser degree, by some Gaul-Germanic half-breeds.
Quote:Exactly the point, I shouldn't have to.
You said, it wears it's "mixed blood on the sleeve"...
What exactly do you mean by this?
Quote:I'm wondering how you could be aware of this and yet still maintain that there was some sort of ethnic specificity
Well, if there was no ethnic specificity, it wouldn't be called Asatru. It's based on the germanic ethnic religious practices of old, and I believe you are intelligent enough to understand this.
Quote:to the collection of beliefs that ended up being terminated (as they traveled and absorbed other beliefs) in northern Europe with the rise of christianity.
You call it a "collection" of beliefs in a really weird manner. There is no collection of beliefs here. These people are trying to resurrect or at least reconstruct as best as they can, genuine germanic pagan practices, which are specific to the germanic culture of the time, to the point of it's termination.
I don't know how clearer this can get.

Indeed, indo-european beliefs have certain similarities to eachother, but these are very subtle, and have already grown to a point where they were very different from eachother at the point they have reached where tribes like germans, gauls etc. were recognizable.
It's like saying that Iranians can worship Thor and Germans can worship Ahura Mazda while having no ethno-cultural relationship with these cultures, although sharing the same language tree a very long while back.

Quote:Some of their gods/superstitions/cultural quirks/narratives likely originate from as far afield as west fucking Africa
I believe you're pulling my leg here.
It's been a long time since humans emigrated from Africa to other parts of the world, the only similarity you might cite is the belief in afterlife.
Quote:So tell me again why a Bantu can't worship them?
It's an ethnic specific folk religion. It was developed within that ethnicity, and nomanclecture relating to it is in the speicific Germanic languages that the people who practiced it spoke. It makes little sense to state that a Bantu can worship the Aesir, for Bantus and Germanic peoples are two different peoples of two different cultures.
It makes sense for a Bantu and German to worship Jesus, as it's a non-ethnicity specific religion, anyone can be a part of it.
But Asatru...I sometimes wonder you just write these simply for the sake of opposing me, without real reason or logic behind your words.

The real thing is, Asatru is part of the Germanic cultural heritage. Do I have any rights on that heritage to actually state that I can worship Asatru Gods, whereas I'm not even part of the people from those practices originated?
[Image: trkdevletbayraklar.jpg]
Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti?
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Thread on Asatru - by Gaest - August 15, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by kılıç_mehmet - August 21, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by kılıç_mehmet - August 21, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by kılıç_mehmet - August 21, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by kılıç_mehmet - August 21, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by kılıç_mehmet - August 21, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by kılıç_mehmet - August 21, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 6:52 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by jonb - August 21, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 8:46 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by padraic - August 21, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by jonb - August 21, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by padraic - August 22, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 22, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by Gaest - August 23, 2012 at 8:35 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 8:49 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by Gaest - August 23, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by Gaest - August 23, 2012 at 9:21 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by Zone - February 5, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by thesummerqueen - February 5, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by Violet - February 5, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by Angrboda - February 6, 2013 at 7:19 am
RE: Thread on Asatru - by Zone - February 6, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by thesummerqueen - February 6, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Thread on Asatru - by Zone - February 6, 2013 at 3:23 pm



Users browsing this thread: 4 Guest(s)