RE: Where did the Jesus myth come from?
August 25, 2012 at 6:45 pm
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2012 at 7:02 pm by Tea Earl Grey Hot.)
(August 25, 2012 at 6:29 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(August 25, 2012 at 6:20 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: None of which are wrong because they disagree with majority opinion! They would be wrong because of bad arguments, bad evidence and bad interpretation. It's a very basic logical fallacy that isn't hard to understand that you two are gleefully committing here. If greater than 50 percent of scholars are agree on x, it does not follow at all that they are right about x!
Whats the point of having peer review if it doesnt matter how many of your peers agree with your findings?
There's no logical fallacy in observing that most scholars agree.
There's no logical fallacy in using statisics to demonstrate that smoking is almost certainly harmful to your unborn baby.
Imagine someone telling media executives that television ratings statistics were a logical fallacy in deciding when to book an advertisement.
False analogy. Statistics such as smoking statistics are empirical findings. They're not opinions.
Television ratings aren't used to determine whether a show is truly "good" but whether show is getting enough viewers to make profit.
Peer review is great. It helps keep bad research out of journals but that by itself does not mean the research and its conclusions is correct. You can read many widely respected peer-reviewed journals (which I do every week but in a different historical field) and find articles say a decade or two ago that passed peer review but were ultimately wrong. Or maybe their findings were good but their conclusions were bad.
(August 25, 2012 at 6:29 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: ...
In fact, if 99% of experts on a given subject agreed, then ignoring that fact would make YOU the person acting illogically for rejecting their expertise.
I don't ignore consensus. More often than not, in rigorous fields, large consensus do seem to be right. But ultimately the reason I may side with a consensus is not because the consensus is a consensus but because they make much better arguments than the minority. However, in a field I'm not trained in rare cases I'll side with the minority if (1) minority is made up of scholars who are trained in those fields, and (2) if the minority makes better arguments than the majority.
My ignore list
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).