(August 20, 2012 at 8:46 am)Rhythm Wrote: My examples are not unfair or dishonest Cinjin, they simply don't paint a picture you agree with.
What about your response to the picture I painted? It's pot & kettle brother. In response to the quotes I left by biologists you wrote: "The author of that quote is a blithering fucking idiot." I can't call your arguments dishonest, but you can call mine "fucking idiotic?" Sorry, it's the same thing. If we disagree with each other, it should be expected that the other's arguments are going to be thought of as illegitimate, idiotic, or dishonest.
but than again ... I already addressed this didn't I.
In answer to your question: Your point regarding India is not fair since you do not address the resources that still have to be produced for them elsewhere in the world. Furthermore, if you have the right to completely disregard the opinions of established biologists and scientists than I certainly don't have to validate your side of the argument either. Shall I respond the same way you did? By saying, "your information source is a blithering fucking idiot." ?????
Also, this debate of ours has gotten off on an India rabbit trail. I was making only one point: You are of the position that population does not effect global warming. I am of the position that it most certainly does. IMO, you have not offered me any legitimate reason for your position, especially when I have pointed out that if there were no people on this planet, there would be no global warming, at least not for the reasons we currently are experiencing. It seems rather absurd to me to deny this, but since you do and we cannot come to an understanding, it would seem our friendly little debate is pointless. It doesn't mean jack shit that India itself is creating less greenhouse emissions. Not one bit. We are all part of a global community and those people need resources created elsewhere. Also, it is estimated that our population growth will decline in 30 some odd years (give or take), but that is only a decline in growth, not a reduction in population, and by then it will likely be too late. I really believe that its either wishful thinking or blatant ignorance that keeps people thinking that we're going to become some utopian society in a matter of 20 years. Because most climate scientists think that's all the time we have left before the scale tips. In your case, as intelligent as you obviously are, I would say it is definitely wishful thinking.
I'm sorry it took so long to respond. I've been extremely busy this last week and these next few days look equally busy.