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My Defense of Christianity.
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RE: My Defense of Christianity.
(August 30, 2012 at 8:16 am)CBA222 Wrote: However, I am pretty sure, like 100% that Jesus was a real guy. It's in my freaking history textbook, and it was a pretty neutral view about the topic. Jesus was a real guy. A guy preaching about how he was the Son of God 2,000 years ago. That is indisputable fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
Go figure.

I am genuinely curious if you even bothered to read the Wiki article before you threw it out there as indisputable proof?

From the Wiki article you linked:

Quote:see less value in the letter, given its uncertain date, and the possible ambiguity in the reference.

see it as having little or no historical value.

there is no overall scholarly agreement about their impact on the historicity of Jesus

but its usefulness in determining the historicity of Jesus is uncertain.

they have little historical value, given that the wording of the original writings can not be examined.

not authentic and as a Christian composition designed to rebuff pagan sources.

What do you know, it seems these sources are disputable after all.

Go figure....
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My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 30, 2012 at 2:30 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Rayaan - August 30, 2012 at 3:00 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by cratehorus - August 30, 2012 at 5:09 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by ib.me.ub - August 30, 2012 at 3:05 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Kayenneh - August 30, 2012 at 3:28 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by KichigaiNeko - August 30, 2012 at 3:37 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by pocaracas - August 30, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 3:43 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Tobie - August 30, 2012 at 3:48 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 30, 2012 at 4:48 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Forsaken - August 30, 2012 at 4:48 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Tobie - August 30, 2012 at 4:59 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Forsaken - August 30, 2012 at 5:15 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by padraic - August 30, 2012 at 5:37 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Kayenneh - August 30, 2012 at 5:49 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Welsh cake - August 30, 2012 at 5:56 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by LastPoet - August 30, 2012 at 6:17 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 8:01 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 8:40 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 8:45 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 8:54 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 30, 2012 at 8:16 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by popeyespappy - August 30, 2012 at 11:31 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Thor - August 30, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2012 at 8:21 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 30, 2012 at 8:31 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Tempus - August 30, 2012 at 8:33 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 8:36 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Kayenneh - August 30, 2012 at 8:36 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by frankiej - August 30, 2012 at 8:37 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Kayenneh - August 30, 2012 at 8:40 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Faith No More - August 30, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 9:03 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 9:06 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 9:11 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 9:14 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 9:25 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Jaysyn - August 30, 2012 at 9:38 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Jaysyn - August 30, 2012 at 10:41 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Faith No More - August 30, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Jaysyn - August 30, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 9:45 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CaseyTheAthie - August 30, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Anomalocaris - August 30, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 30, 2012 at 10:32 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 10:43 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CaseyTheAthie - August 30, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by pocaracas - August 30, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Jaysyn - August 30, 2012 at 10:43 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by pocaracas - August 30, 2012 at 10:45 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Faith No More - August 30, 2012 at 10:41 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Faith No More - August 30, 2012 at 10:47 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Thor - August 30, 2012 at 10:47 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2012 at 11:25 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Anomalocaris - August 30, 2012 at 12:43 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Welsh cake - August 30, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CaseyTheAthie - August 30, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by genkaus - August 30, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CaseyTheAthie - August 30, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by genkaus - August 30, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CaseyTheAthie - August 30, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Mister Agenda - August 30, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 30, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by padraic - August 30, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 30, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Gambit - August 30, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Undeceived - August 30, 2012 at 9:56 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2012 at 7:50 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 30, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 30, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by padraic - August 30, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2012 at 8:09 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 9:02 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Jackalope - August 30, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Undeceived - August 31, 2012 at 1:56 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 31, 2012 at 3:09 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 30, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 10:58 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Jackalope - August 30, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 30, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 30, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 30, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Jackalope - August 30, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 31, 2012 at 12:48 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Anomalocaris - August 31, 2012 at 2:00 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 31, 2012 at 2:06 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 5:22 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Whateverist - August 31, 2012 at 5:37 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 5:44 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by pocaracas - August 31, 2012 at 6:10 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 6:50 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by pocaracas - August 31, 2012 at 7:03 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by neilmarr - August 31, 2012 at 7:07 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 31, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 9:23 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 10:25 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 10:41 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by LastPoet - August 31, 2012 at 10:31 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by pocaracas - August 31, 2012 at 12:02 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CaseyTheAthie - August 31, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by pocaracas - August 31, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 31, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Anomalocaris - August 31, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by The Grand Nudger - August 31, 2012 at 9:26 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 9:29 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by neilmarr - August 31, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 9:41 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 9:45 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 9:59 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by ib.me.ub - August 31, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 10:12 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 10:47 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 11:13 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 10:24 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 10:28 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Whateverist - August 31, 2012 at 10:32 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 10:37 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by ib.me.ub - August 31, 2012 at 10:44 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 10:55 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 11:33 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Mister Agenda - August 31, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Anomalocaris - August 31, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Anomalocaris - August 31, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Anomalocaris - August 31, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by genkaus - August 31, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 2:05 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by genkaus - August 31, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by genkaus - August 31, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by genkaus - August 31, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by LastPoet - August 31, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cinjin - August 31, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cinjin - August 31, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 31, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Anomalocaris - August 31, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CaseyTheAthie - August 31, 2012 at 9:38 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cinjin - September 1, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Lion IRC - September 3, 2012 at 2:20 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 31, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Abel - August 31, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by genkaus - August 31, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Gambit - August 31, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 9:32 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Jackalope - August 31, 2012 at 9:41 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 31, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 8:18 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Gambit - August 31, 2012 at 10:17 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Faith No More - August 31, 2012 at 10:12 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 31, 2012 at 10:27 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 31, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 31, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by padraic - August 31, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Gambit - August 31, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 31, 2012 at 10:40 pm

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