(September 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm)Napoléon Wrote:(September 2, 2012 at 12:39 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: If they do not respect others, they cannot expect any respect or acceptance themselves in return. Really, I don't know where such an obligation does not exist. It's an obligation to be respectful towards the majority of a community anywhere on earth.
Apart from the fact you don't know where such an obligation does not exist, I don't see how I suggested I'm disagreeing with you.
You don't disagree with me, you disagree with the Godschild guy. I'm disagreeing with you in turn. There isn't a place on earth where such an obligation does not exist. It's an obligation put forward by the majority.
Quote:The gist of it was that, by insisting that America adhere to the Constitution and keep church and state separate, I was forcing my secular morals on Christians, who should have the right to enforce Christian morals through the power of law, the justification for this being that Christianity is still the majority religion in America.Well, objecting to secular thought, is an objection to freedom of religion. Secular thought is what actually guarantees freedom of religion, as secularism states that religion is between a man and his God.
And, yunno, obviously, I had objections to that.
Defending secularism means that you are defending his religious freedoms. Nothing more. Obviously, Christianity is the religion of the majority in America, and certain aspects of it that concern the moral issues of the public need to be taken into consideration, since those people themselves are voters, however the situation in America has reached a level where this does not make any sense anymore. I mean, certain "Christian morals" as you state, and certain "Secular morals" whatever those may be, can come to a middle path, allowing for a smooth and harmonious way to those who commit themselves to traditional values, and those who do not share those values, or adhere to other traditional values.
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