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Existence and Infinity (Warning: major rambling)
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RE: Existence and Infinity (Warning: major rambling)
(September 2, 2012 at 8:19 pm)Rayaan Wrote: Time may or may not be infinite, but that's probably a philosophical or a mathematical question that I am not competent enough to answer. There are different theories on this, but I don't think that anyone knows for sure which is the case. I've also come across a lecture on Perimeter Institute in which a physicist argues that time may not even exist (i.e that it's just an illusion). The idea of a timeless reality can also be traced back to Plato and many other philosophers of the past.

I'm familiar with this concept. I've often thought that time is merely a human construct myself. Well, it is really. Our idea of time and time travel is often very different to what the universe actually allows for instance.

Quote:Secondly, yes, there may exist other universes which have their own "time bubble" and those universes might even have a different set of physical laws than that of the universe that we are aware of. There could be billions of other universes each having a different set of laws and a different time bubble. Where is the end point in all of that? Obviously, nobody knows.

Well you certainly put in the plug for any conversation on this topic Tongue

Quote:From a theistic stance, however, we believe that God is the end point, but God Himself has no end point (which sounds like a paradox, apparently). God created time and space and thus He is beyond them. This means that God is a timeless reality. All created things exist in time and space, while God is 'outside' of them and/or not limited by them.

Yeah, I simply call bollocks on this.

Aside from the fact of no evidence (which I don't need to go into I'm sure), it doesn't comply with occam's razor for me. Putting god into the equation of existence is a massive complication.

Besides, god does not exist if he is not within this existence.
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RE: Existence and Infinity (Warning: major rambling) - by Napoléon - September 2, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: Existence and Infinity (Warning: major rambling) - by jonb - September 3, 2012 at 12:54 pm

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